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Old 05-22-2008, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default Most frequent accident causes

OK, so I'm just curious here and I'm sure there are stats out there somewhere but I'm more interested in hearing from riders: in your observations, what's the most frequent cause of motorcycle accidents? I'm thinking:

- other drivers (cars) not seeing you
- excessive speed
- rider inexperience
- ummmm...?
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:54 PM   #2
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1- rider inexperience
2- rider inexperience
3- rider inexperience
4- rider inexperience
5- other drivers
6- excessive speed (see 1 thru 4 above)
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:06 PM   #3
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1: Stupid drivers.
2: Drunk drivers
3: Drivers on Cell Phones
4: Drivers in a hurry
5: Drivers in road rage
6: Drivers who hate motorcycles
7: SUVs, any size, any color. They're gonna get you.
8: Bumpers, spare tires, engine blocks in the car pool lane. Also sofas, luggage and beer bottles.
9: City buses driven by partially blind jazz musicians.
10: Soccer moms in Suburbans.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:19 PM   #4
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Besides Cuddy's list, drunk RIDERS.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:24 PM   #5
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1- rider inexperience
2- rider inexperience
3- rider inexperience
4- rider inexperience
5- other drivers
6- excessive speed (see 1 thru 4 above)
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:49 PM   #6
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Stupidity. Yours or theirs- either way something stupid undoubtedly happened for you to be put into that position in the first place.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:43 PM   #7
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I'm going along with Kirk on this one, sort of. It's like the FAA flight crash investigations I used to read when I was working on a pilot’s license. 99% of the accidents were blamed on pilot error. Engine failed? Pilot error for not verifying the maintenance was done properly. Wind shear in a thunderstorm? Pilot error for not anticipating the weather and planning around it. Another plane flies into the side of yours? Pilot error for not maintaining situational awareness. You get the idea.

In my opinion, the crash that isn’t the rider’s fault is the rare exception. Cuddy’s wreck is an exception: if you’re stopped at a light with cars in front of and beside you, and you get plowed into from behind, there wasn’t much you could have done about it. But if the rider centerpunches the side of a car that pulled out right in front of him, maybe he should have expected it to pull out, and have had one or two ideas in mind for what he’d do or where he’d go if it happened. I ride with a guy who’s been riding for almost three years now. He rides in La-La Land; bumbling down the road, assuming the cars are going to do what they’re supposed to, barely paying attention at all. His riding craft has stayed even at best, maybe even deteriorated since we started to ride together. He hardly uses his front brake, even after having crashed on an exit ramp because he slammed on the rear brake when he went into a corner too hot. I stay ahead of him.

Here’s the point, Grasshopper: keep the attitude you have going now, and you’ll do ok. Every time you ride, try to improve your skills, using the lessons you get in class, from reading, and from experience. Get ****y, distracted, in a rush, ride angry or depressed or being a showoff, and you’ll be roadkill.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:51 PM   #8
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99% of accidents are caused by two things:

#1 Not paying attention
#2 See #1

No matter how skilled you are, you will bite it one day if you don't pay attention. Like my drivers ed. teacher told me at 16: "You aren't going to crash now because you are careful and paying attenition, but as soon as you think you know what you are doing and have this all figured out, that is when you will crash" Still remember those words.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:44 PM   #9
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Checking yourself out in plate glass windows seems to be kind of dangerous.
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:58 AM   #10
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How do you explain that to your buddies? "I was fixing my hair in the windows going 35 when i hit a parked car"
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