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wwalkersd · 03-12-2001, 10:08 AM

"Conversely, when their show doesn't air on TV when/where it's supposed to be (like here in LA, it was supposed to be on ESPN at 2:30 but wasn't, though maybe it was a misprinting error beyond their control)..."

It was on ESPN2 at 2:30, at least here in San Diego, which agreed with the published listings. Must've been a typo in your listings.

It was a horrific crash, and I'm surprised the other riders weren't more seriously injured.

cesj · 03-12-2001, 11:14 AM

Your right. Russell should have never tried to pull off the track especially during the start.

ZRXRy · 03-12-2001, 11:36 AM

Yeah, I had the same question while watching them run down the starting grid: "Are there really (60+?) bikes out on the track to start this race?" That second wave just shouldn't be there during a feature pro race like the Daytona 200.

stevegrab · 03-12-2001, 11:50 AM

I don't see any other way to count people. Most racing I've ever been to counts gate attendance as the number of people through the gate, totalled up for the weekend.

I go every day to watch racing, why not count me 3 times. If 3 different people go on 3 different days, they also count as 3 tickets.

But I agree there are too many riders, both in Superbike and some of the Supersport races. But I think it is at its worst at Daytona, where everybody wants to race on the big track.

Although the incidents in the 200 were contributed to by many bikes, the problems could have been avoided for the most part. Especially Russells mishap, which I'm hoping he'll come out and admit was his own fault.

itsmygixer · 03-12-2001, 01:21 PM

I was suprised to see Scott stall it on the re-start. I was even more suprised to see him put his arm down and change his line. Anyone in roadracing knows what to do in that situation. I'm willing to bet that had Scott continued riding straight ahead, instead of drifting to the right, he would have finished in the top ten! If you were to ask Scott right now, he would tell you the same thing. I'm not blaming him, its just a racing thing. I pray for a speedy and complete recovery. Godspeed Scott!

markw · 03-12-2001, 03:54 PM

Well, it can't all be factory superstars. John Pearson
wasn't exactly a newbie to the track, carrying the #1 750 plate for
Willow. He's one of the best riders I know. I hope Russell gets well too,
I was looking forward to seeing him on a competative bike too. As for John,
I got word today that he was walking around the pits afterwards.

rc50won · 03-13-2001, 03:12 AM

wwalkersd, why do you think his accident was "his own fault"?

"specially Russells mishap, which I'm hoping he'll come out and admit was his own fault".

teamgreenzx9r · 03-13-2001, 07:32 AM

What was Scott Russell thinking!? How does a guy become World Champion, AMA Champion, etc. and not know what to do when his bike stalls on a start? I hate to see any rider get hurt as bad as Scott Russell got it but he has only himself to blame. At the club level you are taught that in the event you stall or break on a start you are to stay where you are on the grid, wave your hands, and (as much as you can) make yourself small for your own protection and that of your fellow racers. I haven't seen the accident on TV yet but from where I was sitting in the grandstand it was clear that Russell turned his bike toward the side of the track thereby turning across the path of the oncoming racers. I'm sure Russell is kicking himself for not reacting properly now but lets not lose sight that his mistake took out 3 other riders. I hope they all have speedy and complete recoveries.

03-12-2001, 10:08 AM	#11
wwalkersd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 246	Re: Scott Russell Update "Conversely, when their show doesn't air on TV when/where it's supposed to be (like here in LA, it was supposed to be on ESPN at 2:30 but wasn't, though maybe it was a misprinting error beyond their control)..." It was on ESPN2 at 2:30, at least here in San Diego, which agreed with the published listings. Must've been a typo in your listings. It was a horrific crash, and I'm surprised the other riders weren't more seriously injured.

03-12-2001, 11:14 AM	#12
cesj Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1	Re: This is really sad deal... Your right. Russell should have never tried to pull off the track especially during the start.

03-12-2001, 11:36 AM	#13
ZRXRy Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 67	Re: Scott Russell Update Yeah, I had the same question while watching them run down the starting grid: "Are there really (60+?) bikes out on the track to start this race?" That second wave just shouldn't be there during a feature pro race like the Daytona 200.

03-12-2001, 11:50 AM	#14
stevegrab Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 368	Re: Scott Russell Update I don't see any other way to count people. Most racing I've ever been to counts gate attendance as the number of people through the gate, totalled up for the weekend. I go every day to watch racing, why not count me 3 times. If 3 different people go on 3 different days, they also count as 3 tickets. But I agree there are too many riders, both in Superbike and some of the Supersport races. But I think it is at its worst at Daytona, where everybody wants to race on the big track. Although the incidents in the 200 were contributed to by many bikes, the problems could have been avoided for the most part. Especially Russells mishap, which I'm hoping he'll come out and admit was his own fault.

03-12-2001, 01:21 PM	#15
itsmygixer Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: Scott Russell Update I was suprised to see Scott stall it on the re-start. I was even more suprised to see him put his arm down and change his line. Anyone in roadracing knows what to do in that situation. I'm willing to bet that had Scott continued riding straight ahead, instead of drifting to the right, he would have finished in the top ten! If you were to ask Scott right now, he would tell you the same thing. I'm not blaming him, its just a racing thing. I pray for a speedy and complete recovery. Godspeed Scott!

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03-12-2001, 03:54 PM	#16
markw Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5	Re: Scott Russell Update Well, it can't all be factory superstars. John Pearson wasn't exactly a newbie to the track, carrying the #1 750 plate for Willow. He's one of the best riders I know. I hope Russell gets well too, I was looking forward to seeing him on a competative bike too. As for John, I got word today that he was walking around the pits afterwards.

03-13-2001, 03:12 AM	#17
rc50won Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1	Re: Scott Russell Update wwalkersd, why do you think his accident was "his own fault"? "specially Russells mishap, which I'm hoping he'll come out and admit was his own fault".

03-13-2001, 07:32 AM	#18
teamgreenzx9r Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1	Re: Scott Russell Update What was Scott Russell thinking!? How does a guy become World Champion, AMA Champion, etc. and not know what to do when his bike stalls on a start? I hate to see any rider get hurt as bad as Scott Russell got it but he has only himself to blame. At the club level you are taught that in the event you stall or break on a start you are to stay where you are on the grid, wave your hands, and (as much as you can) make yourself small for your own protection and that of your fellow racers. I haven't seen the accident on TV yet but from where I was sitting in the grandstand it was clear that Russell turned his bike toward the side of the track thereby turning across the path of the oncoming racers. I'm sure Russell is kicking himself for not reacting properly now but lets not lose sight that his mistake took out 3 other riders. I hope they all have speedy and complete recoveries.