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pdad13 · 01-27-2005, 08:22 AM

Isn't it amazing that they think they're going to snare investors with that *****-poor presentation?

For better or for worse, people will judge the bike and company at least partially based on that web site.

The problem: I'm pretty sure there are no marketing guys or gals, and the engineering "department" is probably the two guys who built the bike.

Jeez, you don't have to spend a ton of money to look credible. A good designer could have whipped up a site that was 1000 times better than that in one or two days.

seruzawa · 01-27-2005, 09:42 AM

I never buy a bike based on the opinion of some reviewer who is only concerned with track performance. I ride on the street and the stiff suspensions of the replicas are simply inadequate. The SV is an excellent streetbike/sporttourer. I'd certainly rather ride an SV through the pothole infested mountian roads of Utah than a 999.

If you don't frequent the Burger Barn then who cares how it stacks up against CBRYZGSXZXRRRRRRRRRs? While they're comparing stats I'm riding.

jungkvist · 01-27-2005, 10:04 AM

Given comparable frames, I'd almost always be willing to take a 15% horsepower deficit for the tractability of a V-twin. For me, itÂ’s not an issue of which one is better; itÂ’s a matter of what IÂ’m comfortable with. ItÂ’s much easier finding the sweet spot of the rev-range when exiting a corner on a V-Twin, than it is on an in-line four. Besides, being old and lazy, IÂ’m not always up for rowing my gearbox; and since V-Twins are more forgiving about engine speed, we tend to get along just fine. And, with subjects ranging from God-knows-what to who-the-Hell-cares, constantly running through my head, I much-prefer having one-less thing to think about.

In closing (and in reality) saying one is better than the other is like saying the Hulk can beat-up Spider Man. They donÂ’t exist, and neither does my talent for riding any modern sport bike to itÂ’s full potential, so why bother.

jungkvist · 01-27-2005, 10:34 AM

Just for the Hell of it, I sent Roehr that tag-line/positioning statement (who knows, maybe I'll get a t-shirt).

The problem is, engineers tend not to deal well with intangibles, while creatives tend not to deal well with actual stuff. Consequently, they each end-up looking at the other like they're an alien life form.

Me, I say put 'em in a garage with an assortment of spray-paint and a bong; whatever comes out, use it!

FrankS1 · 01-28-2005, 12:50 PM

No comment on working too hard, but as a Caltech graduate, I'll recomment it anyhow. It's where I learned to ride a motorcycle (see, you can learn more than astrophysics or molecular biology) from a technician in our group. He was a former AMA racer, but had a falling out with his sponsor.

He recommended that I buy a BSA, but I got a Yamaha YDS2 instead..

01-27-2005, 08:22 AM	#61
pdad13 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,733	Re: Another American Superbike: Roeh Isn't it amazing that they think they're going to snare investors with that *****-poor presentation? For better or for worse, people will judge the bike and company at least partially based on that web site. The problem: I'm pretty sure there are no marketing guys or gals, and the engineering "department" is probably the two guys who built the bike. Jeez, you don't have to spend a ton of money to look credible. A good designer could have whipped up a site that was 1000 times better than that in one or two days.

01-27-2005, 09:42 AM	#63
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Another American Superbike: Roeh I never buy a bike based on the opinion of some reviewer who is only concerned with track performance. I ride on the street and the stiff suspensions of the replicas are simply inadequate. The SV is an excellent streetbike/sporttourer. I'd certainly rather ride an SV through the pothole infested mountian roads of Utah than a 999. If you don't frequent the Burger Barn then who cares how it stacks up against CBRYZGSXZXRRRRRRRRRs? While they're comparing stats I'm riding. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

01-27-2005, 10:04 AM	#64
jungkvist Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 955	Not Necessarily... Given comparable frames, I'd almost always be willing to take a 15% horsepower deficit for the tractability of a V-twin. For me, itÂ’s not an issue of which one is better; itÂ’s a matter of what IÂ’m comfortable with. ItÂ’s much easier finding the sweet spot of the rev-range when exiting a corner on a V-Twin, than it is on an in-line four. Besides, being old and lazy, IÂ’m not always up for rowing my gearbox; and since V-Twins are more forgiving about engine speed, we tend to get along just fine. And, with subjects ranging from God-knows-what to who-the-Hell-cares, constantly running through my head, I much-prefer having one-less thing to think about. In closing (and in reality) saying one is better than the other is like saying the Hulk can beat-up Spider Man. They donÂ’t exist, and neither does my talent for riding any modern sport bike to itÂ’s full potential, so why bother. __________________ Yeah, well, you can get up and leave, DEAL WITH IT!

01-27-2005, 10:34 AM	#67
jungkvist Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 955	Ain't That The Truth! Just for the Hell of it, I sent Roehr that tag-line/positioning statement (who knows, maybe I'll get a t-shirt). The problem is, engineers tend not to deal well with intangibles, while creatives tend not to deal well with actual stuff. Consequently, they each end-up looking at the other like they're an alien life form. Me, I say put 'em in a garage with an assortment of spray-paint and a bong; whatever comes out, use it! __________________ Yeah, well, you can get up and leave, DEAL WITH IT!

01-28-2005, 12:50 PM	#68
FrankS1 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 156	Re: Another American Success in the Making: Roeh? No comment on working too hard, but as a Caltech graduate, I'll recomment it anyhow. It's where I learned to ride a motorcycle (see, you can learn more than astrophysics or molecular biology) from a technician in our group. He was a former AMA racer, but had a falling out with his sponsor. He recommended that I buy a BSA, but I got a Yamaha YDS2 instead..

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