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MC · 09-18-2001, 12:02 PM

blah blah blah too big! blah blah blah too heavy! blah blah blah detuned!? blah blah blah kawasaki is stupid! blah blah blah they just lost a sale! blah blah blah the (#insert the make and model of your bike here#) will kick its ass! blah blah blah

Did I miss anything?

Can we get on with sensible conversation now please?

ulhpilot · 09-18-2001, 12:05 PM

First Post? The sport-tourer battle looks like it is really heating up, with the new ST1300 (STX) that isn't available in the US (Honda, DUH). The benchmark is still the K1200RS, but that one is mucho $$$. I need to replace my ST1100. Why wouldn't Kawa put FI on a new bike?

Principal · 09-18-2001, 12:30 PM

But will it outdo my superhawk with the taller screen, speigler superbike bars and tank and tail bag? The superhawk is much lighter, better built, is a twin, and only cost about $5k used or get a 2000 for $6700. Now, if they can get me a SV1000 with fuel injection, we can talk. Until then I will ride the barely popular but incredibly functional Honda.

starvingstudent · 09-18-2001, 12:32 PM

As it is, this bike will be a great competitor against the Blackbird et al--it may not be the fastest, but like the XX, it has comfort, polish, and great looks.

You mention the subframe has been changed to accomodate hard bags. Does Kawasaki offer a set? If not, they should--with hard bags this bike could really square off with the K1200RS and maybe even the FJR1300 and ST1300.

Overall, this will sell far better than the ZX-12R.

starvingstudent · 09-18-2001, 12:35 PM

"if they can get me a SV1000 with fuel injection"

You want a Kawasaki SV1000?! I mean, there's been rumors of cooperation with Suzuki, but PLEASE.

starvingstudent · 09-18-2001, 12:37 PM

It's too big! Make it 400 pounds lighter look at it. And they detuned the thing! Now it's slow! Kawasaki is stupid as heck and just lost my sale. My Honda Shadow 600 will kick its ass!

Oops... maybe should have left off the last sentence

starvingstudent · 09-18-2001, 12:41 PM

"Based on the motor that powers their own ZRX1200R"...which as I remember it was based on the ZRX1100, which in turn was based on the ZZR1100, aka ZX11. We're going in circles here...

stogieBill · 09-18-2001, 12:53 PM

And while were asking, how about a shaft drive too?

GS1100GK · 09-18-2001, 01:33 PM

OK, looks like a nice enough bike. However, is it a shaft drive like the ST1300 or FJR1300 like most Sport Tourer's. How about the Concours? Any plans to replace that. I've got a GS1100GK that is old and not quite as fast as these new comers, but it does serve the purpose.

I cannot wait to see the reviews.

Eric · 09-18-2001, 01:39 PM

They already offer accessory hard bags for ZR-7S according the their website. I would imagine that they will do something similar here. Of course the two salesmen with whom I spoke at my local Kawi dealer could tell me nothing about the bike ZR-7 including bags), or about the Concourse, or the Yami FZ-1. I gave them info off the website. Pity, I think this is a nice looking bike.And no test rides. I ended up with a new Buell.

09-18-2001, 12:02 PM	#1
MC Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 63	Let me just get this out of the way... blah blah blah too big! blah blah blah too heavy! blah blah blah detuned!? blah blah blah kawasaki is stupid! blah blah blah they just lost a sale! blah blah blah the (#insert the make and model of your bike here#) will kick its ass! blah blah blah Did I miss anything? Can we get on with sensible conversation now please?

09-18-2001, 12:05 PM	#2
ulhpilot Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 24	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 First Post? The sport-tourer battle looks like it is really heating up, with the new ST1300 (STX) that isn't available in the US (Honda, DUH). The benchmark is still the K1200RS, but that one is mucho $$$. I need to replace my ST1100. Why wouldn't Kawa put FI on a new bike?

09-18-2001, 12:30 PM	#3
Principal Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 But will it outdo my superhawk with the taller screen, speigler superbike bars and tank and tail bag? The superhawk is much lighter, better built, is a twin, and only cost about $5k used or get a 2000 for $6700. Now, if they can get me a SV1000 with fuel injection, we can talk. Until then I will ride the barely popular but incredibly functional Honda.

09-18-2001, 12:32 PM	#4
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 As it is, this bike will be a great competitor against the Blackbird et al--it may not be the fastest, but like the XX, it has comfort, polish, and great looks. You mention the subframe has been changed to accomodate hard bags. Does Kawasaki offer a set? If not, they should--with hard bags this bike could really square off with the K1200RS and maybe even the FJR1300 and ST1300. Overall, this will sell far better than the ZX-12R.

09-18-2001, 12:35 PM	#5
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 "if they can get me a SV1000 with fuel injection" You want a Kawasaki SV1000?! I mean, there's been rumors of cooperation with Suzuki, but PLEASE.

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09-18-2001, 12:37 PM	#6
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Re: Let me just get this out of the way... It's too big! Make it 400 pounds lighter look at it. And they detuned the thing! Now it's slow! Kawasaki is stupid as heck and just lost my sale. My Honda Shadow 600 will kick its ass! Oops... maybe should have left off the last sentence

09-18-2001, 12:41 PM	#7
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 "Based on the motor that powers their own ZRX1200R"...which as I remember it was based on the ZRX1100, which in turn was based on the ZZR1100, aka ZX11. We're going in circles here...

09-18-2001, 12:53 PM	#8
stogieBill Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 33	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 And while were asking, how about a shaft drive too?

09-18-2001, 01:33 PM	#9
GS1100GK Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 55	Re: 2002 Kawasaki ZZ-R1200 OK, looks like a nice enough bike. However, is it a shaft drive like the ST1300 or FJR1300 like most Sport Tourer's. How about the Concours? Any plans to replace that. I've got a GS1100GK that is old and not quite as fast as these new comers, but it does serve the purpose. I cannot wait to see the reviews.

09-18-2001, 01:39 PM	#10
Eric Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 143	re: bags + a little digression They already offer accessory hard bags for ZR-7S according the their website. I would imagine that they will do something similar here. Of course the two salesmen with whom I spoke at my local Kawi dealer could tell me nothing about the bike ZR-7 including bags), or about the Concourse, or the Yami FZ-1. I gave them info off the website. Pity, I think this is a nice looking bike.And no test rides. I ended up with a new Buell.