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seruzawa · 12-03-2003, 09:48 AM

To paraphrase a past GM CEO, "motorcyclists need Honda more than Honda needs motorcyclists". Big Red has gotten a strong case of the "holier-than-thous" lately.

Touting the heavier and less powerful VFR as "new and improved" just because it's got some fancy valve actuation mechanism is a prime example. Soichiro must be rolling in his grave.

captainwhoopass · 12-03-2003, 03:01 PM

They're probably more like $800K to $1m. I think superbikes are around $100-250K.

captainwhoopass · 12-03-2003, 03:03 PM

Hmmm, you got a "dipstick" rating. You must have offended all the Honduh and VFR lovers on this site with your comment.

captainwhoopass · 12-03-2003, 03:04 PM

'Zackly. What were we arguing about again?

seruzawa · 12-03-2003, 05:51 PM

What? VFRs aren't heavier? They don't have less power? Honda didn't falsely claim that the bike was improved? Soichiro isn't rolling in his grave?

Did I upset some panty-waist?

wrecks · 12-05-2003, 05:33 PM

It's hard not to be impressed by the technology and insane outputs of these bikes, but honestly, aside from professional racers the only people buying these things are retard wannabe-squid high-school dropout poseur road-crew workers that hold a "slow" sign during the day and live in their parent's garage.

Most riders of average ability will have more fun on a 100 horsepower vtr or tl.

I'm more interested in that new KTM, even though it may not have a "5-piece w-shaped seat cowl" or a "frontal area smaller than most 600cc sportbikes."

caferacerx · 12-08-2003, 08:54 AM

...just maybe not in Superbike. Maybe.

http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld...sp?insert=7993

-jim

swft · 02-26-2004, 01:56 PM

What a load of crap! I've owned a SV650, a ZZR1200, an RC51 and a WR250F. Very different bikes, all of them. Yet all of them had their own merits. Since you've never ridden a ZX10R, and I've put about 300 miles on one at the invitation of the good folks at Kawasaki, I'll direct you to a link that talks about the merits of the bike and the experience of riding it by 'average' people.

http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewth...e=107783719 6

12-03-2003, 09:48 AM	#21
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Honda has always had pedestal syndrome... To paraphrase a past GM CEO, "motorcyclists need Honda more than Honda needs motorcyclists". Big Red has gotten a strong case of the "holier-than-thous" lately. Touting the heavier and less powerful VFR as "new and improved" just because it's got some fancy valve actuation mechanism is a prime example. Soichiro must be rolling in his grave. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

12-03-2003, 03:01 PM	#22
captainwhoopass Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,671	Re: BS... They're probably more like $800K to $1m. I think superbikes are around $100-250K. __________________ <blockquote> \"I knew it. I\'m surrounded by a$$holes.\" [b][i]Lord Helmet, Spaceballs

12-03-2003, 03:03 PM	#23
captainwhoopass Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,671	Re: Honda has always had pedestal syndrome... Hmmm, you got a "dipstick" rating. You must have offended all the Honduh and VFR lovers on this site with your comment. __________________ <blockquote> \"I knew it. I\'m surrounded by a$$holes.\" [b][i]Lord Helmet, Spaceballs

12-03-2003, 03:04 PM	#24
captainwhoopass Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,671	Re: Will be raced... 'Zackly. What were we arguing about again? __________________ <blockquote> \"I knew it. I\'m surrounded by a$$holes.\" [b][i]Lord Helmet, Spaceballs

12-03-2003, 05:51 PM	#25
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Honda has always had pedestal syndrome... What? VFRs aren't heavier? They don't have less power? Honda didn't falsely claim that the bike was improved? Soichiro isn't rolling in his grave? Did I upset some panty-waist? __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

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12-05-2003, 05:33 PM	#26
wrecks Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 235	Useless It's hard not to be impressed by the technology and insane outputs of these bikes, but honestly, aside from professional racers the only people buying these things are retard wannabe-squid high-school dropout poseur road-crew workers that hold a "slow" sign during the day and live in their parent's garage. Most riders of average ability will have more fun on a 100 horsepower vtr or tl. I'm more interested in that new KTM, even though it may not have a "5-piece w-shaped seat cowl" or a "frontal area smaller than most 600cc sportbikes."

12-08-2003, 08:54 AM	#27
caferacerx Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8	Sure they will... ...just maybe not in Superbike. Maybe. http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld...sp?insert=7993 -jim

02-26-2004, 01:56 PM	#28
swft Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: Useless What a load of crap! I've owned a SV650, a ZZR1200, an RC51 and a WR250F. Very different bikes, all of them. Yet all of them had their own merits. Since you've never ridden a ZX10R, and I've put about 300 miles on one at the invitation of the good folks at Kawasaki, I'll direct you to a link that talks about the merits of the bike and the experience of riding it by 'average' people. http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewth...e=107783719 6