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jackburton · 04-16-2010, 05:47 AM

I've got an '85 V65 Magna with a clutch problem. I was rebuilding the clutch master cylinder & noticed the seal around the clutch push rod was in bad shape (left side of the case). I've got a shop manual & it does not break the left side of the cluch ass'y. I've checked with the local dealer & they cannot identify the seal either. They have made 2 suggestions which I've ordered and rec'd but they are incorrect.

I need to get back on the road. Has anyone run into this before? Does anyone have a Honda OEM number for the seal? Can I replace the seal without pulling the cluch ass'y out of the right side of the case & digging back all the way to the left side? ANY help would be appreciated.

seruzawa · 04-16-2010, 07:18 AM

If you look up the picture for the Cross Shaft Assembly for the 1975 Honda VF700C there is a seal numbered part 23. Note where it is on the schematic. Now look up the Cross Shaft Assembly for the VF1100C and look in the same place. There's a seal there but the number was cut off when they scanned the schematic. I think that is the seal. Take your old seal and measure its dimensions. The seals listed on the parts list include the seal sizes.

If all else fails there are places that make seals in all sorts of sizes. You may have to search around but someone should have a seal that will fit.

Buzglyd · 04-16-2010, 08:20 AM

Mechanic to the Penguin: "It looks like you blew a seal."

Penguin: " No, it's just a little ice cream."

pushrod · 04-16-2010, 09:08 AM

"Leave my personal life outta this, and fix the damn thing!"

Kip Adonna, "Wet Dream"

The_AirHawk · 04-16-2010, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pushrod

"Leave my personal life outta this, and fix the damn thing!"

Kip Adonna, "Wet Dream"

"it was April the 41st..... being a Quadruple Leap Year.......
My Barracuda was in the Shop, so I was in a rented Stingray..... and it was overheating......
I pulled-into a Shell Station..... they said I'd blown a Seal....
I said; 'Just fix the damn thing and leave my Private-Life out of it, Okay Pal?'......"

jackburton · 04-17-2010, 06:26 AM

Thank you. I'll give that a try. The seal fell apart on me so I can only go with the inner dimension, but hopefully that will be enough. Now If I can just get a new one in without having to gut the clutch - the weather is shaping up & I need to be on the road.

seruzawa · 04-17-2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackburton

Thank you. I'll give that a try. The seal fell apart on me so I can only go with the inner dimension, but hopefully that will be enough. Now If I can just get a new one in without having to gut the clutch - the weather is shaping up & I need to be on the road.

Good luck. The crossdrive assembly cannot be removed unless you remove the engine.

sarnali2 · 04-17-2010, 07:19 AM

"Who's Jack Burton???"...

sorry, couldn't help it...BTLC is one of my favorite movies of all time LOL

jackburton · 07-31-2010, 05:06 AM

To all,

I tried the '85 VF700 - not the same diameter push rod. Spent about an hour with a very good mechanic & the local Honda dealer, he looked through a bunch of motorcycles & finally found the seal!! He used the shop manual from a PC800 - the OEM part number is 91204-MBO-013.

I hope nobody else has the same problem, but I thought I'd put it out here just in case.

Keep the greasy side down.

The_AirHawk · 07-31-2010, 06:41 AM

Glad it worked out - but DAYAM! that took awhile, di'int it?

04-16-2010, 05:47 AM	#1
jackburton Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	v65 Magna cluch question I've got an '85 V65 Magna with a clutch problem. I was rebuilding the clutch master cylinder & noticed the seal around the clutch push rod was in bad shape (left side of the case). I've got a shop manual & it does not break the left side of the cluch ass'y. I've checked with the local dealer & they cannot identify the seal either. They have made 2 suggestions which I've ordered and rec'd but they are incorrect. I need to get back on the road. Has anyone run into this before? Does anyone have a Honda OEM number for the seal? Can I replace the seal without pulling the cluch ass'y out of the right side of the case & digging back all the way to the left side? ANY help would be appreciated.

04-16-2010, 07:18 AM	#2
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	If you look up the picture for the Cross Shaft Assembly for the 1975 Honda VF700C there is a seal numbered part 23. Note where it is on the schematic. Now look up the Cross Shaft Assembly for the VF1100C and look in the same place. There's a seal there but the number was cut off when they scanned the schematic. I think that is the seal. Take your old seal and measure its dimensions. The seals listed on the parts list include the seal sizes. If all else fails there are places that make seals in all sorts of sizes. You may have to search around but someone should have a seal that will fit. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

04-16-2010, 08:20 AM	#3
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Mechanic to the Penguin: "It looks like you blew a seal." Penguin: " No, it's just a little ice cream." __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

04-16-2010, 09:08 AM	#4
pushrod Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baja 'Bama Posts: 3,478	"Leave my personal life outta this, and fix the damn thing!" Kip Adonna, "Wet Dream" __________________ You would not understand, this is not how I am... I have become - Comfortably Numb.

04-17-2010, 07:19 AM	#8
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	"Who's Jack Burton???"... sorry, couldn't help it...BTLC is one of my favorite movies of all time LOL __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

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04-17-2010, 06:26 AM	#6
jackburton Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	Thank you. I'll give that a try. The seal fell apart on me so I can only go with the inner dimension, but hopefully that will be enough. Now If I can just get a new one in without having to gut the clutch - the weather is shaping up & I need to be on the road.

07-31-2010, 05:06 AM	#9
jackburton Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	To all, I tried the '85 VF700 - not the same diameter push rod. Spent about an hour with a very good mechanic & the local Honda dealer, he looked through a bunch of motorcycles & finally found the seal!! He used the shop manual from a PC800 - the OEM part number is 91204-MBO-013. I hope nobody else has the same problem, but I thought I'd put it out here just in case. Keep the greasy side down.

07-31-2010, 06:41 AM	#10
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Glad it worked out - but DAYAM! that took awhile, di'int it? __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...