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jackbird · 11-14-2001, 09:02 AM

Since you left the land for first snow then sea, might you not try the sky?

I had a little 2-seat Glasair taildragger airplane with a 300 hp engine once. Unlimited Reno air racers have ten times that. The sky is a good place to open up hot rods and see how fast they scoot along. For one thing, it's legal.

I'd love for Honda to get into making airplane engines, or whole airplanes. More power to them.

Lincoln · 11-14-2001, 10:06 AM

actually, i've always had a thing for ultra-light aircraft. however, Honda would probably have to use a 2 stroke for this application!!

minime · 11-14-2001, 10:12 AM

Let me just go on record as saying I'd hope they stay away from placing a VTX1800 engine in it. Sort of goes against the whole "ultralight" concept...

A CR450F engine though, I'd be into that.

jackbird · 11-14-2001, 10:20 AM

If they can make a 4-stroke weedwacker they could make a 4-stroke ultralight aircraft engine. I wish they would. Even a Honda 2-stroke would be nice, but I'd rather they put their development yen into something less old fashioned, like a piston engine as far beyond the Harley-like Lycomings and Continentals we fly behind as their motorcycle engines are beyond Harleys.

Lincoln · 11-14-2001, 10:21 AM

that's a good number for a 4stroke! however, i'm confounded by the fact that Kawasaki's Ultra 150 is a 1200cc 2stroke triple only putting out 150hp.

Hell, Triumph's 955cc 4stroke triple is putting out 150hp. By all rights the Ultra should be putting out well over 200hp, if not 250hp. what's up?

jackbird · 11-14-2001, 10:34 AM

The inline 4's with balance shafts would run much smoother and they weigh less for the power produced than presently popular horizontally opposed piston propeller powerplants for planes.

Maybe the other way, current aircraft engine to motorcycle, would be more promising. Gas turbine engines for airplanes are small, light, and available with as little as 500 horsepower.

Maybe Honda could make a 300 pound 500 horsepower both-wheel-drive sportbike. Tires and fuel tank would look large to our eyes.

mxjunky · 11-14-2001, 06:31 PM

i think that honda sould give ever state with good boat sells a couple of them so we know what they will look like so the dealers know what to expect when a owner breings it to a differnt state

borgNSR · 11-15-2001, 02:42 AM

No doubt Kawasaki have left themselves with a cheap way to improve that line year after year, as market conditions demand. If 180 is doable in 1000cc parallel twins in snowmobiles, 200 plus from a 1200 triple should be just a matter of deciding to do it. These are all crank numbers right? They don't use some sort of water dyno to measure the HP out the back of the boat, do they? How much HP does the impeller eat up? But I'm in over my head now, blub blub.

Crikey this just makes me sick that they won't do up a nice modern port 500 V-twin for some other app...I'd be wedging one into a bike tomorrow.

Shadowspawn · 11-15-2001, 06:06 AM

It already exists. go check out-

www.marineturbine.com/y2kinnov.htm

They clain 460lbs, 300hp and 425 ft/lbs torque. Granted, it is $150,000 to buy one, but a 9.8 second 1/4 mile is pretty interesting...

Lincoln · 11-15-2001, 08:24 AM

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11-14-2001, 09:02 AM	#1
jackbird Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 78	How about hot rod airplanes? Since you left the land for first snow then sea, might you not try the sky? I had a little 2-seat Glasair taildragger airplane with a 300 hp engine once. Unlimited Reno air racers have ten times that. The sky is a good place to open up hot rods and see how fast they scoot along. For one thing, it's legal. I'd love for Honda to get into making airplane engines, or whole airplanes. More power to them.

11-14-2001, 10:06 AM	#2
Lincoln Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 203	Re: How about hot rod airplanes? actually, i've always had a thing for ultra-light aircraft. however, Honda would probably have to use a 2 stroke for this application!!

11-14-2001, 10:12 AM	#3
minime Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 334	Re: How about hot rod airplanes? Let me just go on record as saying I'd hope they stay away from placing a VTX1800 engine in it. Sort of goes against the whole "ultralight" concept... A CR450F engine though, I'd be into that.

11-14-2001, 10:20 AM	#4
jackbird Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 78	Ultra-lights not a market to ignore If they can make a 4-stroke weedwacker they could make a 4-stroke ultralight aircraft engine. I wish they would. Even a Honda 2-stroke would be nice, but I'd rather they put their development yen into something less old fashioned, like a piston engine as far beyond the Harley-like Lycomings and Continentals we fly behind as their motorcycle engines are beyond Harleys.

11-14-2001, 10:21 AM	#5
Lincoln Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 203	180hp Turbo that's a good number for a 4stroke! however, i'm confounded by the fact that Kawasaki's Ultra 150 is a 1200cc 2stroke triple only putting out 150hp. Hell, Triumph's 955cc 4stroke triple is putting out 150hp. By all rights the Ultra should be putting out well over 200hp, if not 250hp. what's up?

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11-14-2001, 10:34 AM	#6
jackbird Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 78	Long history of flying motorcycle engines The inline 4's with balance shafts would run much smoother and they weigh less for the power produced than presently popular horizontally opposed piston propeller powerplants for planes. Maybe the other way, current aircraft engine to motorcycle, would be more promising. Gas turbine engines for airplanes are small, light, and available with as little as 500 horsepower. Maybe Honda could make a 300 pound 500 horsepower both-wheel-drive sportbike. Tires and fuel tank would look large to our eyes.

11-14-2001, 06:31 PM	#7
mxjunky Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4	they sould let every one have them i think that honda sould give ever state with good boat sells a couple of them so we know what they will look like so the dealers know what to expect when a owner breings it to a differnt state

11-15-2001, 02:42 AM	#8
borgNSR Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 30	Room to grow No doubt Kawasaki have left themselves with a cheap way to improve that line year after year, as market conditions demand. If 180 is doable in 1000cc parallel twins in snowmobiles, 200 plus from a 1200 triple should be just a matter of deciding to do it. These are all crank numbers right? They don't use some sort of water dyno to measure the HP out the back of the boat, do they? How much HP does the impeller eat up? But I'm in over my head now, blub blub. Crikey this just makes me sick that they won't do up a nice modern port 500 V-twin for some other app...I'd be wedging one into a bike tomorrow.

11-15-2001, 06:06 AM	#9
Shadowspawn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 29	Turbine motorcycle It already exists. go check out- www.marineturbine.com/y2kinnov.htm They clain 460lbs, 300hp and 425 ft/lbs torque. Granted, it is $150,000 to buy one, but a 9.8 second 1/4 mile is pretty interesting...

11-15-2001, 08:24 AM	#10
Lincoln Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 203	HUH? beebledeebeebledeebeebledeebeebledee