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Old 09-10-2001, 11:00 AM   #21
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VTEC will spit you off the bike if you are leaned all the way over and roll on the gas enough to get to the VTEC change over point.



But it should not be a problem as VFR riders only wear the middle of their tires.
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:10 AM   #22
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I like like that honda has finally brought v-tec to their bikes, but i am a little disappointed by the results. I was hoping for some serious horsepower gains in the vfr, but i was surprised to find that it was about the same as the old model, and only low end torque was increased. I think if they can refine the technology enough for these bikes, they can lower the displacement, while making more power. They do this in their cars, which get better mileage and weigh less than larger engines of similar, so why not try it with the bikes?
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:11 AM   #23
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I don't know Italian but ..... this is what it looks like :





2001
2000



Motore
4 cilindri a V di 90°, 4
tempi, 16 valvole, (DOHC),
Â*4 cilindri a V di 90°, 4 tempi, 16 valvole,
(DOHC),




raffreddato a liquido
raffreddato a liquido



Alesaggio
x Corsa
72 x 48 mm
Â*72 x 48 mm



Cilindrata
781,7 cm3
Â*781,7cm3



Rapporto
di compressione
11,6 : 1
Â*11,6 :1



Alimentazione
Iniezione elettronica
PGM-FI
Iniezione elettronica



Potenza
massima
80 kW a 10.500 min-1 (95/1/EC)
78 kW a 10.500 giri/minuto
Â*+ 2 KW

= 2.7 HP


Coppia
massima
80 Nm a 8.750 min-1(95/1/EC)
Â*80 Nm a 8.750 giri/minuto



Accensione
Digitale transistorizzata,
controllata da computer, con anticipo elettronico
Â*Digitale transistorizzata, controllata da computer con anticipo
elettronico



Avviamento
Elettrico
Elettrico



Cambio
A 6 rapporti
Â*A 6 rapporti



Trasmissione
Catena sigillata con
"O-ring"
Â*Catena sigillata con "O-ring"



Dimensioni
(LxLxA)
2.120 x 735 x 1.195 mm
Â*2.095 x 735 x 1.190 mm
Longer Â….


Interasse
1.460 mm
Â*1.440 mm
??


Altezza
della sella
805 mm
Â*805 mm



Altezza
da terra
130 mm
130 mm



CapacitÃ*
serbatoio carburante
22 litri
21 litri



Ruote





Anteriore
17M/C x MT3.50, 6 razze in
alluminio pressofuso, sezione a "U"
Â*17 x MT3.50 a 6 razze con sezione ad "U" in alluminio
pressofuso



Posteriore
17M/C x MT5.50, 5 razze in
alluminio pressofuso, sezione a "U"
Â*17 x MT5.50 a 5 razze con sezione ad "U" in alluminio
pressofuso



Pneumatici





Anteriore
120/70-ZR17M/C (58W)
120/70 ZR17 (58W)



Posteriore
180/55-ZR17M/C (73W)
Â*180/55 ZR17 (73W)



Sospensioni





Anteriore
Forcella telescopica a
cartuccia H.M.A.S. da 43 mm con regolazione micrometrica del precarico,
escursione 109 mm
Â*Forcella telescopica a cartuccia H.M.A.S. da 41 mm con
regolazione micrometrica del precarico, escursione 109 mm
Bigger fork ?


Posteriore
Pro-Link con
monoammortizzatore H.M.A.S. caricato a gas con regolazione micrometrica del
ritorno e regolabile nel precarico (7 posizioni), escursione 120 mm
Â*Pro-Link con monoammortizzatore H.M.A.S. caricato a gas con
regolazione micrometrica del ritorno e molla regolabile nel precarico (7
posizioni), escursione 120 mm



Freni





Anteriore
Doppio disco idraulico
flottante da 296 x 4,5 mm con pinze a tre pistoncini, ABS* e pastiglie in
metallo sinterizzato
Doppio disco idraulico
flottante da 296 x 4,5 mm con pinze a triplo pistoncino, sistema Dual-CBS e
pastiglie in metallo sinterizzato
No Dual-

CBS

=

No LBS ?


Posteriore
Disco idraulico da 256 x 6
mm con pinza a tre pistoncini, ABS* e pastiglie in metallo sinterizzato
Â*Disco idraulico da 256 x 6 mm con pinza a triplo pistoncino,
sistema Dual-CBS e pastiglie in metallo sinterizzato


Peso
a secco
213 kg (218 kg*)
Â*208 kgÊ
10 lbs heavier


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Old 09-10-2001, 11:23 AM   #24
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This is not the VTEC system as used in Honda cars. It looks to be the same as the system used in the Japanese domestic bike CB400 "Super Four" where 2 valves remain shut until (it looks like 7000 rpm from the article) a certain rpm is reached, then oil pressure completes the connection from the valve stem to the cam face. As you can see, there is not an actual change in valve timing or lift, just the increased breathing ability of 4 valves per cylinder at high rpm, while the 2 valves at low rpm maintain maximum intake velocity. Also, I know of at least 2 VFR riders who wore the sides of the tire pretty well.
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:32 AM   #25
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Ok, that previous post was supposed to be a HTML table .... MO Staff.. help !!!



But is you compare 2001/200 VFRs on the hondaitalia site, the only diffences are:



Maz power : +2Kw = + 2.7 HP

Front form 43mm instead of 41mm

Weight : 213/218 kg instead of 208



Brake description for 2002 is missing the phrase "sistema Dual-CBS". Does that mean no linked brakes ?

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Old 09-10-2001, 11:46 AM   #26
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Love the exhaust on the VFR!
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:48 AM   #27
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babelfish rocks!
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:55 AM   #28
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I always enjoyed the "arrogant quality of construction" of MY Honda.
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Old 09-10-2001, 11:58 AM   #29
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http://www.motorcyclenews.com

they have all the info. The VFR gains 6 pounds and doesn't gain any HP, Just a bunch of options and plastic. Oh well. When they strip at least 50 pounds off of it, let me know.

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Old 09-10-2001, 12:28 PM   #30
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Default Not really VTEC = But it's a start!

Well, it's a start! They shouldn't call this a VTEC system, though, as it has nothing to do with variable timing or lift or any of that technology that graces Honda's auto engines. This system is almost identical to the one on my old 1986 Toyota MR2, only Toyota called it TVIS (Toyota Variable Intake System). Worked great and it was seamless, except for the exhaust note change when it kicked into 4-valve mode. I'm presuming the new VFR will have the same characteristics.
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