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Old 08-07-2001, 08:56 AM   #1
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Regarding that last comment from Colin...



Does anybody know how hard it would be for Honda to use the RC211V in World Superbike competition?



I know there are homologation rules, where they have to sell a small number of vaguely similar machines to the general public, but that's doable. What else would prevent such a move? Do superbike rules even allow for a V-5 engine configuration (albeit with a smaller displacement)?



Just curious...
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Old 08-07-2001, 09:17 AM   #2
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Current WSB rules allow for 750cc fours, 900cc triples and 1000cc twins, all production based. There are no rules permitting five cylinder bikes as far as I know. If they did, I expect they would have to be smaller than 750cc. Also, the production rule is a sticking point. WSB demands they be production bikes, not just engines. However, the FIM stipulates that the new Grand Prix engines be exclusively racing engines, not production based. So I would say, no, they can't run the RC211V or even a variant of it in WSB.
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Old 08-07-2001, 09:20 AM   #3
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The problem with WSB homologation for the RC211V is that if Honda does it, it will no longer qualify to be raced as a GP bike. GP 4-stroke rules specify that it is restricted to prototypes only and cannot be placed into production.
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Old 08-07-2001, 10:15 AM   #4
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Hey, the implication was that Colin would go to GP ,not that Honda would bring the GP bike to Superbikes.
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Old 08-07-2001, 11:47 AM   #5
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Hmm... very interesting. I hadn't heard about the prototype-only rule for GP bikes. My thanks to both MartialStax and Hager for the informed responses.
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Old 08-07-2001, 11:59 AM   #6
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I saw "denied he was interested in racing the RC211V in the grands prix" and immediately thought that he might be interested in racing it (or a variant of it) in WSB.



Different minds, different inferences.
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Old 08-07-2001, 12:31 PM   #7
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You're welcome. And thank you for not writing "first post" in your first post.



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Old 08-07-2001, 05:15 PM   #8
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So, if some sort of production is required, can Anyone, Anywhere, explain how H.D. gets away with WSB racing?
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Old 08-07-2001, 06:26 PM   #9
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a video can be found here:http://www.tochigitv.com/~yuzawa/

(real player file)



In fact I'm very disappointed with the sound. I expected much better. it's not that much better than a V4 rc45. I think we all want to hear great sounds like the ones that could make 6 cylinders honda in the 60s. I red that people found the ow m1 sound disappointing. The rc211 is even worse than yamahas.

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Old 08-07-2001, 08:17 PM   #10
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Harley doesn't race in XSB, they race in AMA superbike, and they sell 500 VR1000's a year in Poland for $50,000 each to homologate it. Not much sense, but I didn't come up with it, I just read about it.
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