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RRocket · 04-30-2001, 03:56 PM

Lightest "big" four stroke ever made, eh? If Honda thinks 450 is "big", they should check out the 235lb. KTM 520 SX...now that's "big".......

RonXX · 04-30-2001, 04:00 PM

They need to put that engine in an ATV. I am sick of seeing the best technology go into the comparatively small market of motocross bikes.

pplassm · 04-30-2001, 04:06 PM

And I'm sick of ATVs. ATVs ought to be outlawed. They do nothing but carve up the trails and allow any cretin to ride in the woods.

Pete P.

RKWFXD · 04-30-2001, 06:49 PM

Looks pretty nice but until they make it California green sticker friendly and put a kickstand on it I'll keep my XR. I spoke to a buddy of mine the other day who works in a dealership. He said they haven't sold a single Yamaha WR250F. Seems that most people don't race and if you can't ride it year 'round, they (me) would rather buy something else...no matter how great the magazines say it is.

BlownAwayIG · 04-30-2001, 06:54 PM

Boyz, break out the check book. If this bike is anything near what Rhino raced at the Four Stroke Worlds. Their ain't nothing even close. I was fortunate enough to get with inches of it all day. It sounds like no other 4 stroke out there. KTM 520's not even, YZ 426's not even the trickest baddest of the bunch was even close. It flat ran away from everyone. Looked like a 250 racing in the 80cc class. No JOKE. I realize the true test will come mother's day at Glen Helen, and Unfortunately none of the really super fast BOYZ will be on one, I have a feeling it'll still make a great showing. It's definately the bike of the future and will raise the stakes. Yamaha started something and may still be Top Dog now, but once these hit the sales floor, Yamaha is going to have to Go BIG TIME. Kawasaki can't just wedge a 4 stroke into 10 year old KX Frame, and DRZ's, well they weren't race bike before,,,now they are XR class bikes. KTM, last I checked, $1200-1700 more for theirs than a Fast YZ 426. Not enough bang for the buck there. Wonder why you see 10 YZ 426's to each KTM????

BlownAwayIG · 04-30-2001, 07:01 PM

I wouldn't worry about your green stickers, Better check to see just where you Green sticker money went. Heck, even XR's won't be able to clear green stickers by 2003.

BlownAwayIG · 04-30-2001, 07:04 PM

Better check your stats, the biggest part of the ATV market is not High Performance ATV's, It's them slow going 4 wheel drive, can pull up tree stumps, camo'ed out dear stalkers. Can you say farm equip?????

BlownAwayIG · 04-30-2001, 07:10 PM

Well, can you say, "BIG BUCKS..." KTM 520 SX is what $7000-$7600. And at Glen Helen anyway, everyone of them got out run by YZ426's. Heck I think a Cannondale even beat em...Hey I love KTM's too, and for a while they set the standard, But unless you seen this Honda run...I did, at least the Pre-Pro version,,,and for a fragile unfinished bike, It was BAD...

Chester · 05-01-2001, 02:11 AM

Thats great, too bad the two stroke is going to be dead in a few years tho. I like four strokes and two strokes, but four stroke mx bikes just arent the same. 426s sound like Harley motors cut in half.

Abe_Froman · 05-01-2001, 06:27 AM

All this four stroke stuff is good and great and super and all that, but you sure have to pay for it. A YZ250F costs almost as much as a YZ250. All it really seems to do is drive up the price of dirt bikes. Six or seven years from now, after all MX bikes are 4-stroke, and the cheapest 125 is $7500, somebody will come out with a $6000 2-stroke that makes 80HP out of the box, and back to 2-strokes we'll go.

04-30-2001, 03:56 PM	#1
RRocket Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 93	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Lightest "big" four stroke ever made, eh? If Honda thinks 450 is "big", they should check out the 235lb. KTM 520 SX...now that's "big".......

04-30-2001, 04:00 PM	#2
RonXX Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 273	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback They need to put that engine in an ATV. I am sick of seeing the best technology go into the comparatively small market of motocross bikes.

04-30-2001, 04:06 PM	#3
pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback And I'm sick of ATVs. ATVs ought to be outlawed. They do nothing but carve up the trails and allow any cretin to ride in the woods. Pete P. __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

04-30-2001, 06:49 PM	#4
RKWFXD Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Looks pretty nice but until they make it California green sticker friendly and put a kickstand on it I'll keep my XR. I spoke to a buddy of mine the other day who works in a dealership. He said they haven't sold a single Yamaha WR250F. Seems that most people don't race and if you can't ride it year 'round, they (me) would rather buy something else...no matter how great the magazines say it is.

04-30-2001, 06:54 PM	#5
BlownAwayIG Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Boyz, break out the check book. If this bike is anything near what Rhino raced at the Four Stroke Worlds. Their ain't nothing even close. I was fortunate enough to get with inches of it all day. It sounds like no other 4 stroke out there. KTM 520's not even, YZ 426's not even the trickest baddest of the bunch was even close. It flat ran away from everyone. Looked like a 250 racing in the 80cc class. No JOKE. I realize the true test will come mother's day at Glen Helen, and Unfortunately none of the really super fast BOYZ will be on one, I have a feeling it'll still make a great showing. It's definately the bike of the future and will raise the stakes. Yamaha started something and may still be Top Dog now, but once these hit the sales floor, Yamaha is going to have to Go BIG TIME. Kawasaki can't just wedge a 4 stroke into 10 year old KX Frame, and DRZ's, well they weren't race bike before,,,now they are XR class bikes. KTM, last I checked, $1200-1700 more for theirs than a Fast YZ 426. Not enough bang for the buck there. Wonder why you see 10 YZ 426's to each KTM????

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04-30-2001, 07:01 PM	#6
BlownAwayIG Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback I wouldn't worry about your green stickers, Better check to see just where you Green sticker money went. Heck, even XR's won't be able to clear green stickers by 2003.

04-30-2001, 07:04 PM	#7
BlownAwayIG Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Better check your stats, the biggest part of the ATV market is not High Performance ATV's, It's them slow going 4 wheel drive, can pull up tree stumps, camo'ed out dear stalkers. Can you say farm equip?????

04-30-2001, 07:10 PM	#8
BlownAwayIG Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Well, can you say, "BIG BUCKS..." KTM 520 SX is what $7000-$7600. And at Glen Helen anyway, everyone of them got out run by YZ426's. Heck I think a Cannondale even beat em...Hey I love KTM's too, and for a while they set the standard, But unless you seen this Honda run...I did, at least the Pre-Pro version,,,and for a fragile unfinished bike, It was BAD...

05-01-2001, 02:11 AM	#9
Chester Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 64	Re: Honda CRF450R Reader Feedback Thats great, too bad the two stroke is going to be dead in a few years tho. I like four strokes and two strokes, but four stroke mx bikes just arent the same. 426s sound like Harley motors cut in half.

05-01-2001, 06:27 AM	#10
Abe_Froman Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 878	Side effect All this four stroke stuff is good and great and super and all that, but you sure have to pay for it. A YZ250F costs almost as much as a YZ250. All it really seems to do is drive up the price of dirt bikes. Six or seven years from now, after all MX bikes are 4-stroke, and the cheapest 125 is $7500, somebody will come out with a $6000 2-stroke that makes 80HP out of the box, and back to 2-strokes we'll go.