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lwatcdr · 03-27-2007, 11:33 AM

They could just use half a Ninja 600 motor. A new Ninja 500 that used half a Ninja 1000 motor would also be a lot of fun.

The_AirHawk · 03-27-2007, 01:23 PM

Eddie Griffin's not the Father, is he?

The_AirHawk · 03-27-2007, 01:24 PM

Only if Eddie Griffin is piloting it.........

The_AirHawk · 03-27-2007, 01:26 PM

Sorta like Eddie Griffin in a Ferrari - you know SOMEBODY is gonna lay-out some green........

Patrick-of-the-Hills · 03-27-2007, 07:29 PM

Maybe, maybe not. I still think a lot of the weakness in this segment has to do with the less-than-thrilling choices. Some well-styled, well-spec'd 350s-500s would certainly count as a noble experiment.

If they build it, will anyone come?

Patrick-of-the-Hills · 03-27-2007, 07:32 PM

Maybe, maybe not. I still think a lot of the weakness in this segment has to do with the less-than-thrilling choices. Some well-styled, well-spec'd 350s-500s would certainly count as a noble experiment.

If they build it, will anyone come?

JimmyD · 04-02-2007, 12:34 AM

The big four have to make a sub 500cc bike that's affordable. I bought an EN500 used. I would have bought new except for the $6500 Canadian MSRP. Or the $6900 MSRP for the Ninja 500.

The reason people aren't "voting with their dollars" for smaller bikes is because they're too damn much money. The Ninja hasn't changed its design in 20 years (other than a rear disk and other cosmetic changes, etc). The Vulcan hasn't changed in 10. The 250 nighthawk hasn't changed since in almost 20 and it's still running an MSRP of 4000 US! IT HAS DRUM BRAKES FFS.

There is no reason 20 year old tech should be pushing 7k Canadian and that's why they aren't more popular. The target audience, first time riders, don't have the cash to blow on gear, a $7000 bike and insurance.

If the big four start bringing prices down instead of gouging poor university students you'd see a lot more of a market. I think $3500 CDN with a helmet and jacket is right on the nose. And here's to progress; maybe the other manufacturers will take notice and decide there IS a market for the sub 500cc scoot after all.

03-27-2007, 11:33 AM	#61
lwatcdr Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 124	Re: I've been wondering... They could just use half a Ninja 600 motor. A new Ninja 500 that used half a Ninja 1000 motor would also be a lot of fun.

03-27-2007, 01:23 PM	#62
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR Eddie Griffin's not the Father, is he? __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

03-27-2007, 01:24 PM	#63
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR Only if Eddie Griffin is piloting it......... __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

03-27-2007, 01:26 PM	#64
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR Sorta like Eddie Griffin in a Ferrari - you know SOMEBODY is gonna lay-out some green........ __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

03-27-2007, 07:29 PM	#65
Patrick-of-the-Hills Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 155	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR Maybe, maybe not. I still think a lot of the weakness in this segment has to do with the less-than-thrilling choices. Some well-styled, well-spec'd 350s-500s would certainly count as a noble experiment. If they build it, will anyone come?

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03-27-2007, 07:32 PM	#66
Patrick-of-the-Hills Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 155	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR Maybe, maybe not. I still think a lot of the weakness in this segment has to do with the less-than-thrilling choices. Some well-styled, well-spec'd 350s-500s would certainly count as a noble experiment. If they build it, will anyone come?

04-02-2007, 12:34 AM	#67
JimmyD Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 16	Re: Honda Canada Offering New 125 cc CBR The big four have to make a sub 500cc bike that's affordable. I bought an EN500 used. I would have bought new except for the $6500 Canadian MSRP. Or the $6900 MSRP for the Ninja 500. The reason people aren't "voting with their dollars" for smaller bikes is because they're too damn much money. The Ninja hasn't changed its design in 20 years (other than a rear disk and other cosmetic changes, etc). The Vulcan hasn't changed in 10. The 250 nighthawk hasn't changed since in almost 20 and it's still running an MSRP of 4000 US! IT HAS DRUM BRAKES FFS. There is no reason 20 year old tech should be pushing 7k Canadian and that's why they aren't more popular. The target audience, first time riders, don't have the cash to blow on gear, a $7000 bike and insurance. If the big four start bringing prices down instead of gouging poor university students you'd see a lot more of a market. I think $3500 CDN with a helmet and jacket is right on the nose. And here's to progress; maybe the other manufacturers will take notice and decide there IS a market for the sub 500cc scoot after all.