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SuperBill · 09-08-2006, 12:18 PM

Could it be that the things we like most about HondaÂ’s cars are the things that bore us about their motorcycles?

The last new Honda motorcycle that captured my imagination was the Valkyrie. Not my style of motorcycle, mind you, but kudos to Honda for going its own way with a cruiser. A good, fresh idea, well executed.

Incremental performance improvements such as the ones on the upcoming CBR600RR are necessary to meet HondaÂ’s racing goals, and IÂ’m sure that all of their motorcycles will benefit from the technology in the near future. But cÂ’mon Â– this is the company that brought us the CB750, the CBX, the CX500, the VFR500 Interceptor, and the Hawk GT .

Hey, Honda, enough with the incremental refinements, already! WhereÂ’s the bold innovation?

ksquid · 09-08-2006, 12:28 PM

LOL good one redstater i.e reddx....

Flickmeister · 09-08-2006, 01:46 PM

Bottom line is how it will perform compared to the competition. Honda has been out of touch with the sportbike market for a while now. Twenty pounds, a few more horsepower, and a bunch more torque from 7-10,000 sounds like a good start if it puts it a the head of the class, though I still hate heavy, hot undertail exhausts.

To me, the big question in the sportbike market is how Suzuki will top the current 1000 with it's '07 redesign. Now that's one helluva challenge (for those that are interested, there's a picture of the '07 Gixxer Thou' in the September issue of the British mag TWO on page 7).

sfcdjevans · 09-08-2006, 02:18 PM

Note to self. Just read the articles. If I feel compelled to look at reader feedback only read major replies, ignore minor replies.

Dangerousdave_2 · 09-08-2006, 02:40 PM

A friend of mine has an RC51. On one of our favorite roads, there are a series quick left/right/left/right type turns where you can also see ahead. He just abosolutely buries me an my poor old VFR every time. But it's ok, because after that the road gets all bumpy and potholed, with rippled, patched spots here and there, and I usually ride by him about there, able to maintain my pace without any trouble. When we get to the end of the road, one of the options is to just turn around and retrace our route. If anybody was keeping score, it would be about a wash, all things considered, up to the point. But we still have eighty or ninety miles till we're home. He can probably still wax my ass on that set of chicanes, but by know he's too wore out to try. On the way back, he often wants to swap bikes, and, when we get to his bike's favorite part of the road, I see why he likes his bike. Still, on the way back, it's him that wants to ride mine, and not the other way around.

Dangerousdave_2 · 09-08-2006, 10:41 PM

That's kinda the deal with VFRs , ST-4 and 3s, and the triumph triple: maybe I'm missing a few others. I'm guessing none of them needed a steering damper to be ridden safely, and yet can keep up with the really high tech stuff on public roads--at least until they figure out a way to let you know that a decreasing radius, off camber, gravel covered corner is coming up.

Dangerousdave_2 · 09-08-2006, 10:46 PM

None of us have any idea what you could possibly be talking about.

DC_Dave · 09-09-2006, 09:00 AM

Yamaha ought to be mighty flattered!

Akuma007 · 09-09-2006, 09:51 PM

And guess what, Honda? The ZX6R is still better looking and a better bike!!

See ya next year when the next ZX6R comes around to spank ya again!

maladg · 09-10-2006, 10:22 AM

Hmmm, another new 600 sports.

And here I was at the edge of my seat thinking that THIS IS THE YEAR!! When Honda brings in a smartly revamped Varadaro, finally gets the ST13 right (more power, less weight, less scooter lookin', no more death ray mufflers) AND does the Superhawk right...ie, very light, very comfy, very fast, great handling, higher fuel capacity, factory luggage SPORT-tourer.

silly me.

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09-08-2006, 12:18 PM	#21
SuperBill Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 293	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced Could it be that the things we like most about HondaÂ’s cars are the things that bore us about their motorcycles? The last new Honda motorcycle that captured my imagination was the Valkyrie. Not my style of motorcycle, mind you, but kudos to Honda for going its own way with a cruiser. A good, fresh idea, well executed. Incremental performance improvements such as the ones on the upcoming CBR600RR are necessary to meet HondaÂ’s racing goals, and IÂ’m sure that all of their motorcycles will benefit from the technology in the near future. But cÂ’mon Â– this is the company that brought us the CB750, the CBX, the CX500, the VFR500 Interceptor, and the Hawk GT . Hey, Honda, enough with the incremental refinements, already! WhereÂ’s the bold innovation?

09-08-2006, 12:28 PM	#22
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Re: This is because... LOL good one redstater i.e reddx....

09-08-2006, 01:46 PM	#23
Flickmeister Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 162	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced Bottom line is how it will perform compared to the competition. Honda has been out of touch with the sportbike market for a while now. Twenty pounds, a few more horsepower, and a bunch more torque from 7-10,000 sounds like a good start if it puts it a the head of the class, though I still hate heavy, hot undertail exhausts. To me, the big question in the sportbike market is how Suzuki will top the current 1000 with it's '07 redesign. Now that's one helluva challenge (for those that are interested, there's a picture of the '07 Gixxer Thou' in the September issue of the British mag TWO on page 7).

09-08-2006, 02:18 PM	#24
sfcdjevans Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 43.47N-76.48W Posts: 956	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced Note to self. Just read the articles. If I feel compelled to look at reader feedback only read major replies, ignore minor replies. __________________ 3425 miles from Reading, UK Why their heads on a pike of course. If I thought it would do any good.

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09-08-2006, 02:40 PM	#25
Dangerousdave_2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,188	Re: This is because... A friend of mine has an RC51. On one of our favorite roads, there are a series quick left/right/left/right type turns where you can also see ahead. He just abosolutely buries me an my poor old VFR every time. But it's ok, because after that the road gets all bumpy and potholed, with rippled, patched spots here and there, and I usually ride by him about there, able to maintain my pace without any trouble. When we get to the end of the road, one of the options is to just turn around and retrace our route. If anybody was keeping score, it would be about a wash, all things considered, up to the point. But we still have eighty or ninety miles till we're home. He can probably still wax my ass on that set of chicanes, but by know he's too wore out to try. On the way back, he often wants to swap bikes, and, when we get to his bike's favorite part of the road, I see why he likes his bike. Still, on the way back, it's him that wants to ride mine, and not the other way around.

09-08-2006, 10:41 PM	#26
Dangerousdave_2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,188	Re: Wow! That's kinda the deal with VFRs , ST-4 and 3s, and the triumph triple: maybe I'm missing a few others. I'm guessing none of them needed a steering damper to be ridden safely, and yet can keep up with the really high tech stuff on public roads--at least until they figure out a way to let you know that a decreasing radius, off camber, gravel covered corner is coming up.

09-08-2006, 10:46 PM	#27
Dangerousdave_2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,188	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced None of us have any idea what you could possibly be talking about.

09-09-2006, 09:00 AM	#28
DC_Dave Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 97	If Imitation Is the Sincerest Form of Flattery Yamaha ought to be mighty flattered! __________________ www.HowWealthWorks.com The Truth About Building Wealth and Freedom

09-09-2006, 09:51 PM	#29
Akuma007 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 24	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced And guess what, Honda? The ZX6R is still better looking and a better bike!! See ya next year when the next ZX6R comes around to spank ya again!

09-10-2006, 10:22 AM	#30
maladg Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rock throwing distance from Home Despot HQ Posts: 1,141	Re: All-New 2007 Honda CBR600RR Announced Hmmm, another new 600 sports. And here I was at the edge of my seat thinking that THIS IS THE YEAR!! When Honda brings in a smartly revamped Varadaro, finally gets the ST13 right (more power, less weight, less scooter lookin', no more death ray mufflers) AND does the Superhawk right...ie, very light, very comfy, very fast, great handling, higher fuel capacity, factory luggage SPORT-tourer. silly me.