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BMW4VWW · 02-07-2005, 01:29 PM

How a company as large as, and with as much engineering accumen as Honda could make a blunder of this magnatude over the course of four model years continues to baffle me. VWW

SezaGeoff · 02-07-2005, 02:11 PM

It is worse than that, as they made a change for the later model years that made it worse. But it doesn't involve Harley or Buell, so there is nothing to see here, move on.

eekadog · 02-07-2005, 02:24 PM

hmm...quality with a capital F

seruzawa · 02-07-2005, 02:36 PM

It's because the company is so large. It probably took at least two years for the original memo to wend its way through a gauntlet of 500 vice-presidents, middle managers and assorted other levels of administratium. Then a fix had to be proposed and approved by the same phalanx of @ss-kissers and buttboys. Now, since the fix was inadequate it'll take another two years to come up with another solution.

Ah, the joys of bureaucracy.

Could be worse. Honda could do the usual thing and simply blame the customers. It's probably only the threat of lawsuits that got Honda to do anything at all. Once Bushbaby is done with tort reform there won't be any more need for recalls at all. Or is Bushbaby just using tort reform to protect incompetent doctors? It's hard to keep up with what the idiots are doing today.

Hipshot · 02-07-2005, 02:57 PM

Hey, you just rang a bell in my otherwise dense cranium. Bad welds may have been a problem in previous models. My 96, which I bought used with about 6,000 miles on it was absolutely beautiful and looked brand new, but it had one problem. One of the tangs which the fairing plastic snapped onto was in the wrong place. No way could it have worked, ever, yet it was welded there. I thought at the time that the weld around it and the joint of two frame members near it looked awfully amateurish for a factory job. But it rode nice, so I rigged up a fastener for the shroud and forgot about it, until this recall prodded my mind.

pushrod · 02-07-2005, 03:19 PM

I hear they're going to reinforce the joints with carbon fiber

jungkvist · 02-08-2005, 01:00 AM

Musta been made on a Friday, and one of the robots was was lookin forward to a hot date.

cstewart77 · 02-08-2005, 02:15 AM

I am probably not the target market for a Gold Wing (34 years old, 1150GS and KTM 625SMC)...but I had my eye on a new white Gold Wing....figured if any Honda was over-engineered it was this model....and would be very upset if I had to have my new bike 'welded' by a dealer...who is doing the work? Are they certified? etc, etc, etc.

Watch out for that pothole!!!

Chris

mile_eater · 02-08-2005, 02:27 AM

"Or is Bushbaby just using tort reform to protect incompetent doctors? "

Don't make me slap you down boy.

02-07-2005, 01:29 PM	#1
BMW4VWW Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,833	Re: Clipped Wings How a company as large as, and with as much engineering accumen as Honda could make a blunder of this magnatude over the course of four model years continues to baffle me. VWW

02-07-2005, 02:11 PM	#2
SezaGeoff Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 32	Re: Clipped Wings It is worse than that, as they made a change for the later model years that made it worse. But it doesn't involve Harley or Buell, so there is nothing to see here, move on.

02-07-2005, 02:24 PM	#3
eekadog Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 466	Re: Clipped Wings hmm...quality with a capital F

02-07-2005, 02:36 PM	#4
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Clipped Wings It's because the company is so large. It probably took at least two years for the original memo to wend its way through a gauntlet of 500 vice-presidents, middle managers and assorted other levels of administratium. Then a fix had to be proposed and approved by the same phalanx of @ss-kissers and buttboys. Now, since the fix was inadequate it'll take another two years to come up with another solution. Ah, the joys of bureaucracy. Could be worse. Honda could do the usual thing and simply blame the customers. It's probably only the threat of lawsuits that got Honda to do anything at all. Once Bushbaby is done with tort reform there won't be any more need for recalls at all. Or is Bushbaby just using tort reform to protect incompetent doctors? It's hard to keep up with what the idiots are doing today. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

02-07-2005, 02:57 PM	#5
Hipshot Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 52	Re: Clipped Wings Hey, you just rang a bell in my otherwise dense cranium. Bad welds may have been a problem in previous models. My 96, which I bought used with about 6,000 miles on it was absolutely beautiful and looked brand new, but it had one problem. One of the tangs which the fairing plastic snapped onto was in the wrong place. No way could it have worked, ever, yet it was welded there. I thought at the time that the weld around it and the joint of two frame members near it looked awfully amateurish for a factory job. But it rode nice, so I rigged up a fastener for the shroud and forgot about it, until this recall prodded my mind.

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02-07-2005, 03:19 PM	#6
pushrod Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baja 'Bama Posts: 3,478	Re: Clipped Wings I hear they're going to reinforce the joints with carbon fiber __________________ You would not understand, this is not how I am... I have become - Comfortably Numb.

02-08-2005, 01:00 AM	#8
jungkvist Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 955	Re: Clipped Wings Musta been made on a Friday, and one of the robots was was lookin forward to a hot date. __________________ Yeah, well, you can get up and leave, DEAL WITH IT!

02-08-2005, 02:15 AM	#9
cstewart77 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33	Re: Clipped Wings I am probably not the target market for a Gold Wing (34 years old, 1150GS and KTM 625SMC)...but I had my eye on a new white Gold Wing....figured if any Honda was over-engineered it was this model....and would be very upset if I had to have my new bike 'welded' by a dealer...who is doing the work? Are they certified? etc, etc, etc. Watch out for that pothole!!! Chris

02-08-2005, 02:27 AM	#10
mile_eater Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 579	Re: Clipped Wings "Or is Bushbaby just using tort reform to protect incompetent doctors? " Don't make me slap you down boy. __________________ 911 is for Pussies.