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jaycar · 06-20-2003, 07:54 AM

This sounds like old news. Honda reportedly suspended shipment of STs to Europe for stability issues, but that was before any STs got to the US.

Motorcycle Consumer News has kept tabs on this issue. Check their ST reviews.

pushrod · 06-20-2003, 08:35 AM

If I recall correctly, (and if the drugs haven't been too good) that the problem was solved by having the rider wear arm chaps.

Sam_Childress · 06-20-2003, 09:03 AM

And I think straight line speed was increased with the use of a half helment.

nokneedragin · 06-20-2003, 09:41 AM

They have also proved that turn in is faster with fingerless gloves, and shifting is smoother with doc martins on

electraglider_1997 · 06-20-2003, 10:55 AM

Try knee-dragging with liquid bandage.

runner00 · 06-20-2003, 11:37 AM

It's the extra wide fairing up front which gets too narrow to quickly, or it's too fat to begin with, sincerely a red dead I lost my head rider.

seruzawa · 06-20-2003, 12:13 PM

This is ridiculous. Everyone knows that Hondas never have any problems.

It's only certain manufacturers or certain air-cooled twins who have problems with their bikes. Any instances of problems with other manufacturer's bikes are to be referred to as "teething issues". Or maybe "beta testing".

But never as problems.

The_People · 06-20-2003, 12:53 PM

I agree. However, why would anyone even dare consider the ST1300 when the Kawasaki Concours is available??? In fact, one would be better off on a VFR or SV650 than the ST. When will people learn...

-The People

electraglider_1997 · 06-20-2003, 04:48 PM

Tell us more comrade.

Van · 06-20-2003, 05:05 PM

This "high speed instability" issue was addressed a long time ago, and it was part of the reason the ST1300's release in the U.S. was delayed so long.

The supposed fix had to do with properly torqueing engine mounts which weren't torqued correctly, according to Honda.

Supposedly all U.S. units were delivered with the proper torque specs and I can definitely say that my ST1300 exhibited no such high speed instability issues.

Like the FJR1300 (but supposedly to a lesser degree), the ST1300 also had a problem with excessive engine heat roasting the rider on hot days. That too was supposedly addressed during the delay, as was the issue of the oil sump's protruding tang.

On the engine heat score I can definitely say that whatever fix Honda provided (stupid triangle tank pads, mainly) was little more than a band aid remedy, as the bike definitely broils my legs from just above the knees down to my feet in any ambient temperature above 85 degrees.

To me, the bike's almost unridable in hot temps.

When I called Honda USA to see what they had to say about fixing my bike they told me that the problem was fixed during the delayed release, and that they now consider the bike to be running properly.

I told them, "Well, that may be true, but that's not the same thing as saying it's running ACCEPTABLY, which it most certainly is NOT!!"

Honda needs to fix this issue on the '04s, as does Yamaha on the FJR.

06-20-2003, 07:54 AM	#1
jaycar Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15	Re: ST 1300 problems? This sounds like old news. Honda reportedly suspended shipment of STs to Europe for stability issues, but that was before any STs got to the US. Motorcycle Consumer News has kept tabs on this issue. Check their ST reviews. __________________ Jaycar

06-20-2003, 08:35 AM	#2
pushrod Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baja 'Bama Posts: 3,478	Re: ST 1300 problems? If I recall correctly, (and if the drugs haven't been too good) that the problem was solved by having the rider wear arm chaps. __________________ You would not understand, this is not how I am... I have become - Comfortably Numb.

06-20-2003, 09:03 AM	#3
Sam_Childress Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: ST 1300 problems? And I think straight line speed was increased with the use of a half helment.

06-20-2003, 09:41 AM	#4
nokneedragin Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 771	Re: ST 1300 problems? They have also proved that turn in is faster with fingerless gloves, and shifting is smoother with doc martins on

06-20-2003, 10:55 AM	#5
electraglider_1997 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 640	Re: ST 1300 problems? Try knee-dragging with liquid bandage.

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06-20-2003, 11:37 AM	#6
runner00 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 144	Re: ST 1300 problems? It's the extra wide fairing up front which gets too narrow to quickly, or it's too fat to begin with, sincerely a red dead I lost my head rider.

06-20-2003, 12:13 PM	#7
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: ST 1300 problems? This is ridiculous. Everyone knows that Hondas never have any problems. It's only certain manufacturers or certain air-cooled twins who have problems with their bikes. Any instances of problems with other manufacturer's bikes are to be referred to as "teething issues". Or maybe "beta testing". But never as problems. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

06-20-2003, 12:53 PM	#8
The_People Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 31	Re: ST 1300 problems? I agree. However, why would anyone even dare consider the ST1300 when the Kawasaki Concours is available??? In fact, one would be better off on a VFR or SV650 than the ST. When will people learn... -The People __________________ - The People

06-20-2003, 04:48 PM	#9
electraglider_1997 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 640	Re: ST 1300 problems? Tell us more comrade.

06-20-2003, 05:05 PM	#10
Van Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 93	Re: ST 1300 problems? This "high speed instability" issue was addressed a long time ago, and it was part of the reason the ST1300's release in the U.S. was delayed so long. The supposed fix had to do with properly torqueing engine mounts which weren't torqued correctly, according to Honda. Supposedly all U.S. units were delivered with the proper torque specs and I can definitely say that my ST1300 exhibited no such high speed instability issues. Like the FJR1300 (but supposedly to a lesser degree), the ST1300 also had a problem with excessive engine heat roasting the rider on hot days. That too was supposedly addressed during the delay, as was the issue of the oil sump's protruding tang. On the engine heat score I can definitely say that whatever fix Honda provided (stupid triangle tank pads, mainly) was little more than a band aid remedy, as the bike definitely broils my legs from just above the knees down to my feet in any ambient temperature above 85 degrees. To me, the bike's almost unridable in hot temps. When I called Honda USA to see what they had to say about fixing my bike they told me that the problem was fixed during the delayed release, and that they now consider the bike to be running properly. I told them, "Well, that may be true, but that's not the same thing as saying it's running ACCEPTABLY, which it most certainly is NOT!!" Honda needs to fix this issue on the '04s, as does Yamaha on the FJR.