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seruzawa · 02-26-2007, 07:00 AM

Trade the 600 in on a Tuono or a Speed Triple. That will solve all your problems.

Kreb_Cycle · 02-26-2007, 08:10 AM

It's still fun to ride a bike on the road even if you ride legally, Mr. Grammar Police.

obandoj · 02-26-2007, 08:16 AM

Let's have pics! I would like to show some pictorial evidence of broken bombs to you know who.

Gritboy · 02-26-2007, 08:33 AM

Gabe's spot on in his comments, but as you're no doubt already read in the myriad of posts...

Newbies to riding clip-on sportbikes often think the bike turns can turn on a dime without input, but they're meant to go fast and remain very stable, so they never are as light and nimble as on dirtbike/enduro -- both of which are very squirrelly for fast street riding. Beside mass distribution, the handlebars leverage are key to different feel, but you can compensate using tips everyone's sending, including:

(1) Counter-steering (pushing on bar you to turn into) will do you wonders

(2a) using knee pressure (on opposite side) gives you feedback control, or (2b) you can use the old off-road peg pressure trick to get a little extra subtle turn control

(3) learn to roll your ass on the seat in the direction you're turning as you shift your weight (yes you actually have to move around a bit if you want to get the most of your body mass) for smooth leaning and control and your RR will track just fine.

Mind you, it's no 250 off-roader, but with a little experimentation with body/seating positioning it'll felt like a running back over a linebacker. Practice, experiment, and go slow until you get a good feel for the bike. Wickedly good bike.

Gritboy · 02-26-2007, 08:34 AM

Mmmmm... Tuono. I can smell the deliciousness now.

Gritboy · 02-26-2007, 08:36 AM

Sport twins are great, but it's the rider's skill, not the bike that needs replacing (i.e., s/he just needs practice). A CBR600RR isn't exactly and anchor.

Gritboy · 02-26-2007, 08:39 AM

I love it when I hit the submit before I've proofread my post, which is full of typos. Doh!

maladg · 02-26-2007, 12:54 PM

I think a couple of posters - and Gabe - nailed it re "recalibration" when changing from dirt to High Per Street.

Last year, a friend let me take a nice, long ride on his KLR650. Liked everything about it except the street skittish 21" ft - there is that recalibration thing again - and the lack of towing capacity.

When I returned it, jumped directly on The Fat Lady - aka Honda ST11 for a quick run to Blairsville to do some errands. Two curves onto ********* Road, I stopped to see if I had ANY air in my tires. Funny how fast I "uncalibrated". If I ever finally take a test ride on a Uly, ST3s or GS12, I'm financially committed.

As for ********* Road. Forget it! I never see WolfPen Gap squids on my secret road and I intend to keep it that way.

02-26-2007, 07:00 AM	#11
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? Trade the 600 in on a Tuono or a Speed Triple. That will solve all your problems. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

02-26-2007, 08:10 AM	#12
Kreb_Cycle Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 872	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? It's still fun to ride a bike on the road even if you ride legally, Mr. Grammar Police. __________________ He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms—one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended. - George Orwell _1984_

02-26-2007, 08:16 AM	#13
obandoj Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 912	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? Let's have pics! I would like to show some pictorial evidence of broken bombs to you know who.

02-26-2007, 08:33 AM	#14
Gritboy Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 530	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? Gabe's spot on in his comments, but as you're no doubt already read in the myriad of posts... Newbies to riding clip-on sportbikes often think the bike turns can turn on a dime without input, but they're meant to go fast and remain very stable, so they never are as light and nimble as on dirtbike/enduro -- both of which are very squirrelly for fast street riding. Beside mass distribution, the handlebars leverage are key to different feel, but you can compensate using tips everyone's sending, including: (1) Counter-steering (pushing on bar you to turn into) will do you wonders (2a) using knee pressure (on opposite side) gives you feedback control, or (2b) you can use the old off-road peg pressure trick to get a little extra subtle turn control (3) learn to roll your ass on the seat in the direction you're turning as you shift your weight (yes you actually have to move around a bit if you want to get the most of your body mass) for smooth leaning and control and your RR will track just fine. Mind you, it's no 250 off-roader, but with a little experimentation with body/seating positioning it'll felt like a running back over a linebacker. Practice, experiment, and go slow until you get a good feel for the bike. Wickedly good bike.

02-26-2007, 08:34 AM	#15
Gritboy Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 530	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? Mmmmm... Tuono. I can smell the deliciousness now.

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02-26-2007, 08:36 AM	#16
Gritboy Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 530	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? Sport twins are great, but it's the rider's skill, not the bike that needs replacing (i.e., s/he just needs practice). A CBR600RR isn't exactly and anchor.

02-26-2007, 08:39 AM	#17
Gritboy Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 530	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? I love it when I hit the submit before I've proofread my post, which is full of typos. Doh!

02-26-2007, 12:54 PM	#18
maladg Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rock throwing distance from Home Despot HQ Posts: 1,141	Re: MO Reader Question: Hard-To-Turn CBR600RR? I think a couple of posters - and Gabe - nailed it re "recalibration" when changing from dirt to High Per Street. Last year, a friend let me take a nice, long ride on his KLR650. Liked everything about it except the street skittish 21" ft - there is that recalibration thing again - and the lack of towing capacity. When I returned it, jumped directly on The Fat Lady - aka Honda ST11 for a quick run to Blairsville to do some errands. Two curves onto ******* Road, I stopped to see if I had ANY air in my tires. Funny how fast I "uncalibrated". If I ever finally take a test ride on a Uly, ST3s or GS12, I'm financially committed. As for ******* Road. Forget it! I never see WolfPen Gap squids on my secret road and I intend to keep it that way.