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Buzglyd · 11-17-2006, 10:27 AM

Should we stay away from Ducati's air-cooled motors too?

Tigercub · 11-17-2006, 10:30 AM

I think MO needs to buy or borrow a scale to weigh the bikes they test. Manufacturer's weights are useless. Why does weight matter? Because It tells you a lot about how it 'handles' in the garage and at slow speeds.

sarnali2 · 11-17-2006, 10:50 AM

It has to be a stick man with a beer belly for me or it won't do no good.

sarnali2 · 11-17-2006, 10:52 AM

you can both shut the ***** up. I have first post....it's mine all mine and you can't have it .

please go away now, thank you.

manalagi001 · 11-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Hear hear. Well said. Good comments.

priday · 11-17-2006, 11:43 AM

The Frammich Modulator is an important parameter as well. Also wether it uses Halogen or Standard Blinker Fluid....

everiman · 11-17-2006, 11:49 AM

Manufacturers spec tables are designed to help you buy their bike. They will try to tell what they think you want to hear. A high compression ratio is generally meant to imply high performance, it *may* also mean that you will be buying fuel from the premium side of the pump. By itself it means nothing.

Like the man said, weight, seat height, suspension travel, horsepower/torque/rpm are more useful.

Bikers ARE motorheads, so numbers that can be compared are semi useful discussion tools. Being able to bandy about moto trivia at the bar is a considered by by some to be a source of amusement. "My bike has 14:1 compression, I see that your piece a poop has a miserable 13.5:1" "

*****! I better sell that dog right now and get me one a them 15:1 jobs."

svtech · 11-17-2006, 06:49 PM

Gabe,

While responding to your reader Peter, I thought it surprizing that you didn't mention the header on the spec sheets.

All the newbie really needs to know is whether self said specs are for a VFR, a Concours, or that other one that I disremember.

Just trust the dealer. Even the MSRP can be massaged with "easy" financing.

staff · 11-17-2006, 07:09 PM

so I had to give the honest answer. It kills me sometimes, but I'm a changed man. Really.

Gabe

11-17-2006, 10:27 AM	#21
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? Should we stay away from Ducati's air-cooled motors too? __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

11-17-2006, 10:30 AM	#22
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? I think MO needs to buy or borrow a scale to weigh the bikes they test. Manufacturer's weights are useless. Why does weight matter? Because It tells you a lot about how it 'handles' in the garage and at slow speeds.

11-17-2006, 10:50 AM	#23
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? It has to be a stick man with a beer belly for me or it won't do no good. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

11-17-2006, 10:52 AM	#24
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	Re: I'm just askin' you can both shut the ***** up. I have first post....it's mine all mine and you can't have it . please go away now, thank you. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

11-17-2006, 10:54 AM	#25
manalagi001 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 127	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? Hear hear. Well said. Good comments.

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11-17-2006, 11:43 AM	#26
priday Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? The Frammich Modulator is an important parameter as well. Also wether it uses Halogen or Standard Blinker Fluid.... __________________ Rob Priday Horsepower is an illusory mathmatical equation; Torque is Real, and is the source of all good things in the world.

11-17-2006, 11:49 AM	#27
everiman Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 67	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? Manufacturers spec tables are designed to help you buy their bike. They will try to tell what they think you want to hear. A high compression ratio is generally meant to imply high performance, it may also mean that you will be buying fuel from the premium side of the pump. By itself it means nothing. Like the man said, weight, seat height, suspension travel, horsepower/torque/rpm are more useful. Bikers ARE motorheads, so numbers that can be compared are semi useful discussion tools. Being able to bandy about moto trivia at the bar is a considered by by some to be a source of amusement. "My bike has 14:1 compression, I see that your piece a poop has a miserable 13.5:1" " *****! I better sell that dog right now and get me one a them 15:1 jobs."

11-17-2006, 06:49 PM	#28
svtech Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 195	Re: MO Reader Question: What's in a Spec Table? Gabe, While responding to your reader Peter, I thought it surprizing that you didn't mention the header on the spec sheets. All the newbie really needs to know is whether self said specs are for a VFR, a Concours, or that other one that I disremember. Just trust the dealer. Even the MSRP can be massaged with "easy" financing.

11-17-2006, 07:09 PM	#29
staff Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 489	Not selling bikes anymore... so I had to give the honest answer. It kills me sometimes, but I'm a changed man. Really. Gabe