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yoyo · 01-07-2002, 09:10 AM

who cares- besides first post!

russ · 01-07-2002, 09:51 AM

The real news is the price gouging at the dealerships (with tacit approval from the factory) and the hidden cost of ownership to traditional Harley riders who have never before had to be concerned with gapping valves.

Kim_Miles · 01-07-2002, 10:04 AM

I really thought I might buy a Harley for the first time in my life. Forget it. The V-Rods are now showing up on the Trader-On-Line site under the Motorcycle section at prices from $22,000 to $32,000. At $16,999 it was overpriced, but I might have justified the extra $5,000 over the Jap bikes just to buy American, but at those prices I will continue to buy Japanese and German. This reminds me of 15 years ago when Honda automobiles were so hot that dealers gouged the customers on them. Dealers are too stupid, or too blinded by quick profits to realize that we customers don't fortget when someone takes advantage of us. That is what allowed Toyota to catch and surpass Honda on the sales floor.

Lincoln · 01-07-2002, 10:37 AM

just how does one improve shift "feel" by 50%??

Dryfly · 01-07-2002, 10:38 AM

I couldn't have said it any better!! The only dealer in my community that doesn't gouge has a waiting list of about 2 years. There's a lot of other choices I can think of riding during a two year wait. Regarding the gouging dealers, to hell with them! I'll never do business with them whether times are good or bad. It's too bad because Harley's finally producing some pretty good products.

Joe_Momma · 01-07-2002, 11:17 AM

Gapping valves? Get a Yamaha...

Joe_Momma · 01-07-2002, 11:18 AM

YOu would think Harley would get smart and try to up production a bit (without buying more plants) and get the bikes to the people that want them, or better yet, sell 'em on the internet. But Harley wants their bikes to be a status symbol and retain value so they encourage gouging.

Joe_Momma · 01-07-2002, 11:20 AM

Probably making that shift clunk wayyyy more deliberate. Try an R6.

fr21555 · 01-07-2002, 12:04 PM

I saw the H-D dealer just before Christmas, delivering a V-Rod to his first sucker, er customer. At $25,000 this dope paid a hefty price to be the first on his block with a V-Rod. I hope he enjoys the ride on the bike more than the one the dealer just gave him.

50% improved "feel"? With what H-D charges for that ugly piece of doo-doo, one has to ask if their proctologist could do the same at their next rectal exam.

grover750 · 01-07-2002, 12:32 PM

I stopped by a HD dealership today, since I hadn't yet seen the VROD. Looked good, quite a bit smaller than I thought it would be. Here's my conversation with the salesman:

Me: So, how long is the waiting list?

Him: I've got one in back available RIGHT NOW.

Me: I thought there was a long wait list for these...

Him: Well yeah, if you want one at MSRP.

Me: How much is the one in back?

Him: It's got every option available, we're selling it for $30k.

(Sound of dealership door closing)

So, $17k for the bike, $6k vasoline tax, and $7k for chrome tidbits and a different seat. If anyone is interested, contact Zylstra HD in Ames, IA.

You're welcome for the tip,

grover750

01-07-2002, 09:10 AM	#1
yoyo Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already who cares- besides first post!

01-07-2002, 09:51 AM	#2
russ Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already The real news is the price gouging at the dealerships (with tacit approval from the factory) and the hidden cost of ownership to traditional Harley riders who have never before had to be concerned with gapping valves.

01-07-2002, 10:04 AM	#3
Kim_Miles Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already I really thought I might buy a Harley for the first time in my life. Forget it. The V-Rods are now showing up on the Trader-On-Line site under the Motorcycle section at prices from $22,000 to $32,000. At $16,999 it was overpriced, but I might have justified the extra $5,000 over the Jap bikes just to buy American, but at those prices I will continue to buy Japanese and German. This reminds me of 15 years ago when Honda automobiles were so hot that dealers gouged the customers on them. Dealers are too stupid, or too blinded by quick profits to realize that we customers don't fortget when someone takes advantage of us. That is what allowed Toyota to catch and surpass Honda on the sales floor.

01-07-2002, 10:37 AM	#4
Lincoln Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 203	Shift feel improved by 50%!! just how does one improve shift "feel" by 50%??

01-07-2002, 10:38 AM	#5
Dryfly Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 164	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already I couldn't have said it any better!! The only dealer in my community that doesn't gouge has a waiting list of about 2 years. There's a lot of other choices I can think of riding during a two year wait. Regarding the gouging dealers, to hell with them! I'll never do business with them whether times are good or bad. It's too bad because Harley's finally producing some pretty good products.

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01-07-2002, 11:17 AM	#6
Joe_Momma Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 585	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already Gapping valves? Get a Yamaha...

01-07-2002, 11:18 AM	#7
Joe_Momma Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 585	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already YOu would think Harley would get smart and try to up production a bit (without buying more plants) and get the bikes to the people that want them, or better yet, sell 'em on the internet. But Harley wants their bikes to be a status symbol and retain value so they encourage gouging.

01-07-2002, 11:20 AM	#8
Joe_Momma Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 585	Re: Shift feel improved by 50%!! Probably making that shift clunk wayyyy more deliberate. Try an R6.

01-07-2002, 12:04 PM	#9
fr21555 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 22	Re: Harley updating V-Rod already I saw the H-D dealer just before Christmas, delivering a V-Rod to his first sucker, er customer. At $25,000 this dope paid a hefty price to be the first on his block with a V-Rod. I hope he enjoys the ride on the bike more than the one the dealer just gave him. 50% improved "feel"? With what H-D charges for that ugly piece of doo-doo, one has to ask if their proctologist could do the same at their next rectal exam.

01-07-2002, 12:32 PM	#10
grover750 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 142	Dealer gouging.. I stopped by a HD dealership today, since I hadn't yet seen the VROD. Looked good, quite a bit smaller than I thought it would be. Here's my conversation with the salesman: Me: So, how long is the waiting list? Him: I've got one in back available RIGHT NOW. Me: I thought there was a long wait list for these... Him: Well yeah, if you want one at MSRP. Me: How much is the one in back? Him: It's got every option available, we're selling it for $30k. (Sound of dealership door closing) So, $17k for the bike, $6k vasoline tax, and $7k for chrome tidbits and a different seat. If anyone is interested, contact Zylstra HD in Ames, IA. You're welcome for the tip, grover750