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stormcloud · 11-30-2001, 05:09 PM

Sounds like you have an inside line... Porche's seem like good gear though... If not - who is good?

NavyBueller · 11-30-2001, 05:31 PM

Yeah, in a Firebolt!!

They could put the radiator in the fork tubes.

CarsSuck · 11-30-2001, 07:37 PM

about a month ago, riding next to a new 883R. Unfortunately they were going the other way so I couldn't get a close look. Must've been factory testers.

Saint2 · 11-30-2001, 08:22 PM

It's going to come down to what riders feel about the peformance. If you study the dynos, especially the torque curve, you'll find that this engine is more like a '98 Ducati 916. It won't feel ANYTHING like a Hog. I mean, most Harley guys are gonna get on this thing, short shift at around 3 grand, and be sayin', "Where's the power at?!" Fact is, the good stuff doesn't happen on this motor until around 6 thousand revvies. Personally, I'd like to see this powerplant mated to a sport-touring set up, but I'd retune it slightly for more midrange power. As for the feet-forward seating position, I think that this is the wrong motor. Mr. Buell is going to be busy for a long time, coming up with some sort of real chassis for what seems like a cool engine. We'll just have to wait. In the mean time, I'll be riding my Duck!

RobM · 11-30-2001, 09:06 PM

ROTF! THAT is the innovative kind of engineering we need! How about some others: ... Well i dunno, maybe ... Gearchange on the handlebars, with a lean-angle activated clutch? Sorry, I must've had an American Ingenuity Bypass in my sleep.

elizilla · 11-30-2001, 09:54 PM

Actually, it's not that unusual for a 20 year old bike to sell, used, for about the same dollar amount, if it's in excellent condition. Of course, with inflation, and with the way the prices of bikes in general have increased, the $3000 you spend now for a 20 year old used bike, is a lot less in terms of real money, than the $3000 the first owner paid to buy it new.

The thing that sets 20 year old Harleys apart from many other 20 year old bikes, is that the Harley people take such pains to keep them nice, rather than riding them hard and putting them up wet. Even bikes that have had several owners, are likely to be immaculate. And immaculate bikes can draw the premium prices.

boxjoint · 11-30-2001, 11:45 PM

Interested in seeing one.....not interested in buying one!! Put that V-Rod motor in a chassis similar to the XB9R Firebolt then not only would you have a competant American sport bike, but one that will give the imports a run for their money. It would be nice to have a native supersport that performs available.

...Erick Buell, if you are listening, (or researching your potential customer base on-line) do this and you WILL HAVE more sales. From what I understand about Buell's is that they have a great chassis, but poor engine and reliability. That chassis coupled with a V-Rod motor will have me selling my bike and waiting in line for such a unique machine.

moose · 12-01-2001, 01:15 AM

a big joke.

moose · 12-01-2001, 01:16 AM

hold on. i gotta go tell my neighbour to get off his porch & get the trailer ready for more duty.

moose · 12-01-2001, 01:18 AM

if the angels think it's awesome, then for sure it is. they are the experts.

11-30-2001, 05:09 PM	#21
stormcloud Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 146	Re: V-Rods at dealers this week Sounds like you have an inside line... Porche's seem like good gear though... If not - who is good?

11-30-2001, 05:31 PM	#22
NavyBueller Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 12	Re: Better than expected Yeah, in a Firebolt!! They could put the radiator in the fork tubes.

11-30-2001, 07:37 PM	#23
CarsSuck Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 282	I saw one on the highway about a month ago, riding next to a new 883R. Unfortunately they were going the other way so I couldn't get a close look. Must've been factory testers.

11-30-2001, 08:22 PM	#24
Saint2 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1	Re: V-Rods at dealers this week It's going to come down to what riders feel about the peformance. If you study the dynos, especially the torque curve, you'll find that this engine is more like a '98 Ducati 916. It won't feel ANYTHING like a Hog. I mean, most Harley guys are gonna get on this thing, short shift at around 3 grand, and be sayin', "Where's the power at?!" Fact is, the good stuff doesn't happen on this motor until around 6 thousand revvies. Personally, I'd like to see this powerplant mated to a sport-touring set up, but I'd retune it slightly for more midrange power. As for the feet-forward seating position, I think that this is the wrong motor. Mr. Buell is going to be busy for a long time, coming up with some sort of real chassis for what seems like a cool engine. We'll just have to wait. In the mean time, I'll be riding my Duck!

11-30-2001, 09:06 PM	#25
RobM Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 47	Re: Better than expected ROTF! THAT is the innovative kind of engineering we need! How about some others: ... Well i dunno, maybe ... Gearchange on the handlebars, with a lean-angle activated clutch? Sorry, I must've had an American Ingenuity Bypass in my sleep.

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11-30-2001, 09:54 PM	#26
elizilla Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 13	Re: V-Rods at dealers this week Actually, it's not that unusual for a 20 year old bike to sell, used, for about the same dollar amount, if it's in excellent condition. Of course, with inflation, and with the way the prices of bikes in general have increased, the $3000 you spend now for a 20 year old used bike, is a lot less in terms of real money, than the $3000 the first owner paid to buy it new. The thing that sets 20 year old Harleys apart from many other 20 year old bikes, is that the Harley people take such pains to keep them nice, rather than riding them hard and putting them up wet. Even bikes that have had several owners, are likely to be immaculate. And immaculate bikes can draw the premium prices.

11-30-2001, 11:45 PM	#27
boxjoint Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 72	Re: V-Rods at dealers this week Interested in seeing one.....not interested in buying one!! Put that V-Rod motor in a chassis similar to the XB9R Firebolt then not only would you have a competant American sport bike, but one that will give the imports a run for their money. It would be nice to have a native supersport that performs available. ...Erick Buell, if you are listening, (or researching your potential customer base on-line) do this and you WILL HAVE more sales. From what I understand about Buell's is that they have a great chassis, but poor engine and reliability. That chassis coupled with a V-Rod motor will have me selling my bike and waiting in line for such a unique machine.

12-01-2001, 01:15 AM	#28
moose Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 31	Re: It can a big joke.

12-01-2001, 01:16 AM	#29
moose Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 31	Re: V-Rods at dealers this week hold on. i gotta go tell my neighbour to get off his porch & get the trailer ready for more duty.

12-01-2001, 01:18 AM	#30
moose Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 31	Re: Better than expected if the angels think it's awesome, then for sure it is. they are the experts.