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teapotdome · 05-04-2007, 05:23 AM

Speechless.

First.

Buzglyd · 05-04-2007, 06:06 AM

I'm just content knowing 100,000 people know how to Lay 'er down properly.

giganto · 05-04-2007, 06:33 AM

...not so sure she would grade "properly" for all thou., by 342 some chafing from leather fringe against skin, and tired neck from avoiding lite beer breath...

ejis · 05-04-2007, 06:40 AM

Regardless of what you may think of the bikes, H-D is actively promoting rider training. How can that be a bad thing?

bikervince · 05-04-2007, 06:45 AM

"Lambert, .... fell in love with the dark and sinister 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster XL1200N Nightster"

There's the problem right there... People with such horrible eyesight on motorcycles!

All kidding aside, this is a VERY GOOD THING; Not just 100,000 new riders but 100,000 new riders with proper training! Excellent!!

Bikervince

MTRHEAD75 · 05-04-2007, 06:46 AM

i agree with ejis

seruzawa · 05-04-2007, 07:02 AM

I dunno, but somebody will come up with something.

jandj_davis · 05-04-2007, 07:25 AM

How about the fact that the new MSF BRC is a joke and doesn't teach anything other than "This is the gas, it makes you go. This is the clutch, is makes you start going. This is the brakes, it makes you stop going." Seriously, unless they are taking a "Street Riding Skills" class rather than a "Parking lot Maneuvers" class, it really doesn't make a difference other than putting more confidence in bad drivers.

byeway · 05-04-2007, 08:03 AM

Ah, c'mon -- you know that there is no such a thing as a "perfect" training program. Do you expect grade school graduates to be ready to perform vascular surgery or run General Electric?

The BRC is designed to show untrained new riders good basic techniques, not high-skill performance; a starting place, not the pinnacle of performance art. From there on, practice must take over.

How would you teach new riders to cope with heavy traffic, if you were in charge? That is, without killing them or anyone else.

ejis · 05-04-2007, 08:05 AM

It's still better than self-training, which is how I started. Luckily I've taken a number of courses since and learned a lot, every time - even in "basic" courses.

Should a basic course be the only training you take? Of course not. But it's a good base to start from, and since they are typically enjoyable, encourages you to take more advanced courses later.

05-04-2007, 05:23 AM	#1
teapotdome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 40	Re: The Harley 100,000th Speechless. First.

05-04-2007, 06:06 AM	#2
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: The Harley 100,000th I'm just content knowing 100,000 people know how to Lay 'er down properly. __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

05-04-2007, 06:33 AM	#3
giganto Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 159	Re: The Harley 100,000th ...not so sure she would grade "properly" for all thou., by 342 some chafing from leather fringe against skin, and tired neck from avoiding lite beer breath...

05-04-2007, 06:40 AM	#4
ejis Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	Re: The Harley 100,000th Regardless of what you may think of the bikes, H-D is actively promoting rider training. How can that be a bad thing?

05-04-2007, 06:45 AM	#5
bikervince Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 126	Re: The Harley 100,000th "Lambert, .... fell in love with the dark and sinister 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster XL1200N Nightster" There's the problem right there... People with such horrible eyesight on motorcycles! All kidding aside, this is a VERY GOOD THING; Not just 100,000 new riders but 100,000 new riders with proper training! Excellent!! Bikervince

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05-04-2007, 06:46 AM	#6
MTRHEAD75 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 49	Re: The Harley 100,000th i agree with ejis

05-04-2007, 07:02 AM	#7
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: The Harley 100,000th I dunno, but somebody will come up with something. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

05-04-2007, 07:25 AM	#8
jandj_davis Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 44	Re: The Harley 100,000th How about the fact that the new MSF BRC is a joke and doesn't teach anything other than "This is the gas, it makes you go. This is the clutch, is makes you start going. This is the brakes, it makes you stop going." Seriously, unless they are taking a "Street Riding Skills" class rather than a "Parking lot Maneuvers" class, it really doesn't make a difference other than putting more confidence in bad drivers.

05-04-2007, 08:03 AM	#9
byeway Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 14	Re: The Harley 100,000th Ah, c'mon -- you know that there is no such a thing as a "perfect" training program. Do you expect grade school graduates to be ready to perform vascular surgery or run General Electric? The BRC is designed to show untrained new riders good basic techniques, not high-skill performance; a starting place, not the pinnacle of performance art. From there on, practice must take over. How would you teach new riders to cope with heavy traffic, if you were in charge? That is, without killing them or anyone else.

05-04-2007, 08:05 AM	#10
ejis Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	Re: The Harley 100,000th It's still better than self-training, which is how I started. Luckily I've taken a number of courses since and learned a lot, every time - even in "basic" courses. Should a basic course be the only training you take? Of course not. But it's a good base to start from, and since they are typically enjoyable, encourages you to take more advanced courses later.