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testcase · 05-05-2007, 05:00 PM

Maybe I read Wendy Moon's blog too much but it's not in HD's interest to fail riders in the course. Failures may become discouraged and not buy anything from HD in the future.

schizuki · 05-05-2007, 05:23 PM

You know those bogus studies that say women earn 77% of what men do?

If that's true, they're overpaid.

The_AirHawk · 05-05-2007, 07:46 PM

Actually, I thought the RC51 WAS a clone of the Ducati Superbike...........

(i.e. a "if you can't beat 'em, spend lots of money to have them beaten" kind of clone)

svtech · 05-06-2007, 02:18 AM

Cheating?

I didn't make any such accusation nor did I mean to imply that connotation. H-D doesn't need my blessing to make as much money as they can in any legal way that they can.

My comments were in response to the altrusim that dripped from the P R release.

Around here, the couple of small companies that provide very similar beginner training courses charge - on average - $100 less for what appears to be the same curricula while providing Honda Rebels as training vehicles.

I agree that all manufacturers should and could do more to grow our sport, training and education being key issues here.

Nevertheless, I'll stand behind my prior questions.

silentgrayfellow · 05-06-2007, 03:03 AM

You stated that Rider's Edge costs $300. Here is a quote from the H-D website:

"The cost of the New Rider Course is determined by each participating dealership, and ranges anywhere from $195 to $350. Remember, the price includes the use of a BuellÂ® BlastÂ® motorcycle for class riding sessions. So check with the dealership of your choice."

svtech · 05-07-2007, 01:04 AM

Thanks.

I was aware that the dealerships have considerable leeway in setting prices. About three months ago a buddy who wanted to become a new rider asked me recommend a school for him.

Here's what I found within a roughly 100 mile radius:

Dealer A: $300

Dealer B: $325

Dealer C: *see below

Company D: $195

Company E: $210

*Dealer C did not directly quote a cost. The applicant apparently could reserve a spot in an up-coming class and then could visit with the dealer to complete the enrollment process. There was no reason for me to follow up on that option.

My friend went with company "E", has completed the course, and bought a used 650 as his first bike.

If it ever stops raining around here, he's promised to show me some of the things that he was taught in school if I share a little info I may have gleaned over the past 40-odd years of riding experience.

I consider that to be a very fair exchange. Attending a school myself would be a better option, but this will have to do, for now.

05-05-2007, 05:00 PM	#91
testcase Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 336	Re: The Harley 100,000th Maybe I read Wendy Moon's blog too much but it's not in HD's interest to fail riders in the course. Failures may become discouraged and not buy anything from HD in the future. __________________ Testcase -------------------------------------------------- The Wheelnerds Podcast - http://www.wheelnerds.com

05-05-2007, 05:23 PM	#92
schizuki Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4,413	Re: Another thing Harley was out front on You know those bogus studies that say women earn 77% of what men do? If that's true, they're overpaid. __________________ “[The video] should be sent for example to ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and maybe PBS and VOA. As for Fox News, let her die in her anger... I used to think that MSNBC channel may be good and neutral a bit, but is has lately fired two of the most famous journalists – Keith Olbermann and Octavia Nasser.” - Al-Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn. Or any American lefty.

05-05-2007, 07:46 PM	#93
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Re: The Harley 100,000th Actually, I thought the RC51 WAS a clone of the Ducati Superbike........... (i.e. a "if you can't beat 'em, spend lots of money to have them beaten" kind of clone) __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

05-06-2007, 02:18 AM	#94
svtech Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 195	Re: The Harley 100,000th Cheating? I didn't make any such accusation nor did I mean to imply that connotation. H-D doesn't need my blessing to make as much money as they can in any legal way that they can. My comments were in response to the altrusim that dripped from the P R release. Around here, the couple of small companies that provide very similar beginner training courses charge - on average - $100 less for what appears to be the same curricula while providing Honda Rebels as training vehicles. I agree that all manufacturers should and could do more to grow our sport, training and education being key issues here. Nevertheless, I'll stand behind my prior questions.

05-06-2007, 03:03 AM	#95
silentgrayfellow Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 307	Cost of Rider's Edge You stated that Rider's Edge costs $300. Here is a quote from the H-D website: "The cost of the New Rider Course is determined by each participating dealership, and ranges anywhere from $195 to $350. Remember, the price includes the use of a BuellÂ® BlastÂ® motorcycle for class riding sessions. So check with the dealership of your choice."

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05-07-2007, 01:04 AM	#96
svtech Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 195	Re: Cost of Rider's Edge Thanks. I was aware that the dealerships have considerable leeway in setting prices. About three months ago a buddy who wanted to become a new rider asked me recommend a school for him. Here's what I found within a roughly 100 mile radius: Dealer A: $300 Dealer B: $325 Dealer C: see below Company D: $195 Company E: $210 Dealer C did not directly quote a cost. The applicant apparently could reserve a spot in an up-coming class and then could visit with the dealer to complete the enrollment process. There was no reason for me to follow up on that option. My friend went with company "E", has completed the course, and bought a used 650 as his first bike. If it ever stops raining around here, he's promised to show me some of the things that he was taught in school if I share a little info I may have gleaned over the past 40-odd years of riding experience. I consider that to be a very fair exchange. Attending a school myself would be a better option, but this will have to do, for now.