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Old 02-07-2007, 02:50 PM   #11
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:00 PM   #12
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With a 40% differential they don't have to offshore Just hire replacement workers. Heck they could probably could hire them for 20% less.. as justify by saying they aren't trained or skilled yet. Like said below put an ad int Detroit, Seattle, or Long Beach papers.
[b]Wanted ex-auto or ex-aerospace factory workers, excellent pay, paid medical, 401K, nice small town living.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:11 PM   #13
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Sure, I guess, most of the Harley guys I see lately seem like "Regular Joes" even though there's a lot of joking about them all being R.U.B.'s. They seem to be a little more than half "Posers" and a little less than half "serious" Riders, same as "Sportbikers".



If I had a better idea of the real demographics and experience/usage data of Harley owners including the percentage owning/having owned foreign bikes I could better Guess their take.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:39 PM   #14
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Can't be kpaul - he said he'd quit doing that moderating thing that he denied ever doing in the first place.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:39 PM   #15
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I read your new title on Outlook, congratulations on the step up the ladder. I'm assuming it comes with a commensurate increase in your stipend? so new bike soon?



Anyway the new hires at HD don't get matching contributions to their 401k's which seems like the cheap shot in the whole deal. Seperate pay scales for new hires isn't new, niether are contributions to medical, I have Group Health for my family and it's $35 per month, or peanuts...



Part of our last contract was breaking IUOE away from IAM pay and bennies, which I thought was a good Idea. They were nothing but dead weight to us and we got a much better contract out of the deal. Some take aways but overall very favorable, we still had some guys pissing and moaning , wanting a strike and all but 6 figures and full bennies is fine by me. We told them pretty much the same thing, go somewhere else if you don't like it.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:44 PM   #16
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kpaul invested years of his life and thousands of dollars of tuition to get the training that enables him to be paid much more than an assembly-line worker. It probably took him at least ten years after graduation before his net worth equalled someone who took a job at Harley right out of high school.



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Old 02-07-2007, 04:50 PM   #17
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:01 PM   #18
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Union = Death of the US Auto Industry

Union = Death of the US Airline Industry

Union = UPS (over priced service and damaged boxes with no apologies)

Union = Future death of the US Motorcycle Industry

Union = Extortion of the hard working members by the normally corrupt leaders.

Union = Democrats who don't want the workers to get ahead so they'll depend on their failed policies.

College = Upward mobility without having to create an reason why a worker deserves increased pay and benefits.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #19
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Ha! I've been there. Worthless printer's union. I went back to college at 32yrs old and completely changed my career. Now I'm far far better off than I'd have been sticking to some job where someone else negotiated my pay and benefits.



If I can do it anyone can do it. If people want to remain unskilled in today's job market then they can pay the penalty. I've got no sympathy for the lazy who expect the world to be delivered to them on a platter merely because they are alive.



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Old 02-07-2007, 06:26 PM   #20
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Who ever called you "average?"
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