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Old 11-28-2006, 03:02 AM   #61
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Default Re: New MO Poll/Survey

The proposed XR has 90's suspension and only 90HP. LOL! As if 1/20th of the whiners could even utilize 90% of the capability of a '70 Commando.



If Honda put out an almost identical retrobike and called it an Ascot the same people would be singing its praises.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:04 AM   #62
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I've only ridden a couple of new Harleys for a few miles each (less than ten miles to be fair). The ones I rode were nice. Also, I have a few friends who I rode with who have Harley's (that's how I got to ride some Harleys). But, they just cost so much. I've ridden and owned several other cruisers from other manufacturers, and the Harleys I did ride did not seem any more comfortable, better handling, better performing, are better looking than the other cruisers. But, these Harley's all cost much more than the other cruisers of similar or more displacement did. That's my only point. I have heard some Harley owners complain about what they got for their money, but not until after they finally relented and bought a cruiser from another manufacturer.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:25 AM   #63
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As time goes along the predictions mutate so far from the originals, caveats and limitations and exceptions galore, that they no longer even resemble the originals.



One thing is sure... no one is actually making any sort of business decisions based on the rantings of some incompetent govt contract employee.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:43 AM   #64
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There are literally tens of thousands of business people out there who wish like hell that they'd painted themselves into such a "corner".
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:44 AM   #65
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They do cost more in some cases. But the flip side is that you get more when you sell, so it's pretty much a wash. Since it's a 'cruiser' then the performance issue doesn't really exist. Take a real good look at the other cruisers, and they are just bad copies of a Harley. If you really want performance, then look at another type of bike. Cruisers ain't it. I will say that the fit, finish, and overall quality of any Harley will match, or exceed, any motorcycle made in the world. They are easy to maintain, easy to modify, are very reliable, and hold their value well. Nothing wrong with not liking Harley's though. If price/performance is your thing, I'd buy Japanese. Can't beat em. But going 1 mph faster and 3 pounds lighter only goes so far.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:53 AM   #66
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Do you mean how the God chosen Inline Four configuration suddenly became the God chosen V-Four?? How 'war hero' Tammy Duckworth was going to win the election here in Illinois? How gas was going up to 4 bucks? How Harley was going into the tank? How biodiesel is taking off? No wonder Boeing moved to Chicago! They needed people that could actually think. Predictions without your money behind them is basically talking out your ass. Anyone can talk. Back it up with hard earned cash, and let's see how smart the GMP is. It's called 'Put your money where your mouth is'. No wonder he's struggling to keep a 6 year old crashed motorcycle while I bought 7 bikes since then. I don't think I want to be as smart as him.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:04 AM   #67
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Unless the twenty-somethings are design school enrollees, you won't see H-D targeting them any time soon. It just doesn't fit their being. They target fat wallets with an eye toward style and few of that demographic ilk are under 35. This new Sporty Sport IS a Harley by any definition and trades on that most-established of H-D niches, the flat track. It would be in interesting study to link current & past flat track enthusiasts to those who currently own mainstream H-Ds. I doubt that race wins have added to retail sales.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:10 AM   #68
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And speaking of a 6-year old crashed moto - didn't the GMn-P predict a photo with him alongside it?



Or is it that his daughter still has the camera, and won't give it back?



Or is it that he can't find an '01 Ninja someplace that will sit still long enough for him to get someone to snap his pic standing next to it.............?
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The battery charger for his camera is hooked up to the Ninja.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:45 AM   #70
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Actually, I think you're right when it comes to performance, although some of the cruisers I've ridden had obvious and noticeable differences in performance. I don't care about top speed. But, acceleration is great! I recently owned a Star Stratoliner because I love the way it looks, the unique quality and details it has, the great reviews it received (Cycle World rated it "Best Open Cruiser" for 2006), and how comfortable and good handling it was. It also had good performance for a cruiser. But, I ended up returning to sport bikes to get back the acceleration and cornering I really enjoy in bikes. If you haven't already done this, check out the reviews on the Star Stratoliner and/or Roadliner. It's pretty impressive what Yamaha has done to make this bike unique when you look at the quality and the details.
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