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Old 05-27-2005, 03:09 PM   #31
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Fudiciary shmoodishiary. Being careful here to protect their intellectual property, and prevent becoming a defendant, here's my opinion:



If that were true, they'd simply hire engineers and concentrate on building true "benchmark level" motorcycles instead of marketing H-D(tm) badged bags of coffee, diapers, mugs, and pool tables.



What's likely happening here is they want to insure they're monopolizing the very profitable aftermarket sales of air cooled performance parts for the next 5-10 years. This, should help keep them solvent until they can get a cooperative Japanese or German firm to design an engine that "The Faithful" may actually buy (and will meet EPA requirements for 2010 and beyond -- which the "Twin Cam(tm)" surely won't).



The V-Rod(tm) hasn't been the answer for The Motor Company(tm).



How many V-Rods(tm) currently get traded in for an "old school" H-D(tm) lump when the owner finds out the engine has to come out for the first major maintenance service of the top end?
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Old 05-27-2005, 03:59 PM   #32
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Instead of sueing S&S, and Delkron Harley should by the rights to their parts, as they seem to be of much better quality than HD's. VWW
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:09 PM   #33
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Probably true, but I admit a 1600-1800cc V-Rod engine would be cool.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:23 AM   #34
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So the V-Rod motor is all you know that might be made elsewhere? Who has made the carbs for Harley for years? Does Mikuni ring a bell? The same company that builds the carbs on my Intruder.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:34 AM   #35
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S&S is now working with Victory on performance products. Wonder if that has anything to do with HD's lawsuit........???
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Old 06-02-2005, 04:22 AM   #36
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It's a carburetor! Big deal. You can't possibly expect a company making a product as complex as a motorcycle to design, fabricate and assemble every single component they need. I bet even Holley and Walbro have parts inside their carburetors that are made or assembled overseas. And while we're at it, I wonder where the aluminum, brass and steel that goes into those carburetors came from. He!!, if it wasn't hauled out of an American mine by an American dump truck rolling on American tires then by gosh it must not be American. "Made in the USA" to me means "put together in the USA with mostly USA made parts." If you want to start down the slippery slope and suggest that every component needs to be American, fine. Just give me one example of a consumer product with more than 100 parts that qualifies as "Made in the USA" under your apparent definition.

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Old 06-02-2005, 03:28 PM   #37
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Carbs are big deals unless you like sitting side the road playing with adjustments begging the thing to crank! Hmmm, In your words, overseas parts, and assemblies put on Harleys, American steel used to make metric bikes. Sounds like a name doesnÂ’t mean much, does it? Ride what you want but don't be one of those pretending your patriotic for buying a Harley, and metric riders are not.
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