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Old 10-29-2004, 05:20 AM   #31
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Default Re: EL MONTE CA Area police departments opting for Harley-Davidson over BMW etc..

The end of the article says that the consumer version of the ABS Hog will cost you $18,900, before the obligitory dealer gouging, Buz. I'd stick to riding the Brutale if I were you. VWW
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Old 10-29-2004, 06:01 AM   #32
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Default Re: How much does a de-comissioned bike sell for?

My neighbor is a Motorcop for the city of Denver. They are offered the Electra glides for about $11-12,000 after the year of use. Most will have 10-15,000 miles on them. If they go back to the leasing company, Grand Junction HD, they get out on the floor and sell for $15-16,000.

BTW, I have ridden his bike a few time. It is sweet and has this really cool horn! Get's everybodies attention.
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Old 10-29-2004, 06:13 AM   #33
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Nobody forced them to be cops or asked them to "put their lives on the line". I sure didn't, and I would be happy if they simply left me alone, thank you very much. As public employees it is irrelevant if they are happy with whatever the public that is footing the bill decides to choose for them. Otherwise they should look for another profession. Preferably in the voluntary, rather than government-coerced, economy.
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Old 10-29-2004, 09:03 AM   #34
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Default Re: EL MONTE CA Area police departments opting for Harley-Davidson over BMW etc..

The BMWs also have a very weak clutch for heavy traffic riding, and don't stand up as well to being tipped over as the Kaws.
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Old 10-29-2004, 10:51 AM   #35
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Default ElectraMaticPowerGlide®

"The fuel-injected 1300 cc Electra Glides have a bulletproof wet clutch that shifts much like an automatic transmission on a car"



Cool. Honda couldn’t pull off the HondaMatic, but I’ll bet that the Motor Company® sells every last ElectraMaticPowerGlide® that rolls off the York assembly line. The gals are really gonna’ love this one. Not only is it low, slow, and oh-so-vibrato, there’s no pesky shifter to scuff your Motorclothes® boots and no annoying clutch "handle" to chew up the fringe on your Motorclothes® gloves.



Nobody knows their customers better than the Motor Company®!



I wonder what letters will appear on the ElectraMaticPowerGlide® gear selector. Will they stick with the tried and true P,R,N,D,L2,L1? Or will they come up with something more suitable for a Harley®, like P1,P2,P3,P4,P5,T (Park, Pose, Primp, Polish, Poke, Trailer)?

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Old 10-29-2004, 07:55 PM   #36
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Default Re: CA Police Opting for Hogs over BMW

I am fortunate enough to be a motor cop and we've used Yamahas, Kawasakis, and Harleys. The Yamahas were ok but drove like large boat anchors. You could buy a Kawasaki for $8000 and in four years you would have $10-14,000 worth of maintenance into each bike (we had seven), which our deptartment put up with for eight years. The last four years we have had HD Road Kings that are bullet proof reliable, almost as manuverable as the KZ 1000, yes they do have a high CDI factor, and people like to admire them when they are around town. I think HD came out with ABS due to BMW and Honda having it but neither of those two companies can match HD's $ value. I have ridden a new Electraglide with the new ABS and it works remarkably well. The bikes are plenty fast for all uses but if you think you want to outrun one, remember you can't outrun the radio on it. You can usually get a good deal on a used one, we sold ours on the internet for slightly over $10,000, and you should be happy with it. I wouldn't buy a used KZ 1000 though due to all the problems we have experienced, and we usually only got $2000 or less for those at auction.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:35 AM   #37
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I would have to call BS on your buddy's description of the BMW's poor u-turn abilities. He needs to learn to ride the thing. My co-worker and her husband have matching his and hers civilian models of the BMW. They both have no problem executing a u-turn inside 18 feet. The BMW might not have as generous a steering lock as the HD or Kawi, but a little counterbalancing goes a long way toward executing an easy u-turn that is just as tight or tighter. They also have much better ground clearance.



My gripe with the BMW is the clutch. Slipping frys it too easily. Considering the kind of riding actually involved on an everyday shift, BMW could have provided a useful, useable piece.
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:58 AM   #38
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Default Re: CA Police Opting for Hogs over BMW

I like to pick on the HD boys as much as anyone, but...

There is a reason they are the #2 bike seller. There also is a resaon that they are picked by departments all over the US. The monetary thing is a very strong influence as is the American appeal (whatever that means anymore. Where are those Harley wheels from again?)

If they are comfortable and perform satifactorily, more power to them! As for a performance cycle, how many cops are riding around in 'great' sqauds? I don't think most of them, given a choice would opt to have a Ford Grand Victoria as a sqaud. You get what you get and hopefully it works.

Now if Hummer offered vehicles to the departments for nothing, how many would they have? If Cadillac did, would your average sqaud have spinning wheels? Come to think of it, would people start wanting a ride in the back of a sqaud then?



Again, no matter what they ride or drive, you can't outrun the radio.



Now, can we get Victory to put out a police special? There has to be some competition here. At least as far as v-twins go.



But, wouldn't a Goldwing work better anywho?



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Old 11-01-2004, 06:14 PM   #39
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You can't beat a Road King for price or performance. If you drop it for some reason it will scuff the crash bars slightly. Drop a Goldwing standing still & the plastic costs big $. I heard Kawasaki was trying to make a police model from the Drifter series but it wouldn't handle right & they gave up on it. Indian as supposed to be coming out with a police model (other than the terminator movie one) but thats in the crapper now. I have heard Triumph is trying as well. I would like to see a Sprint ST with ABS and all decked out in full 5-0 equipment though.
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