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Old 07-27-2004, 10:56 AM   #31
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That would be you. Hundreds of people race V-twins each weekend.



There is more racing than MotoGP. Did you know that? Apparently not.



You really are the stupidest person to ever post on MO.
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:57 AM   #32
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Pretty much how I remembered it going down. The weird thing is I was in a temporary job with AMF at the time. CADD systems and three dim mock-ups of their new automated bowling machines. Great job, we all new we where in trouble with the main company, so every friday afternoon we shut down work, went into the test lab (which had a half length alley) drank beer and bowled.

We billed it as product testing.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:00 AM   #33
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Oh yes. Yamaha designed that engine completely in a vacuum without regard to any previous engine development by any non-Yamaha engine designer. Yup. The Japanese originated the V-4 OHC engine. Sure. Right.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:06 AM   #34
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I try to stay out of the Kpaul sh!t, but its time.



MO get a Ducati 999, or any Vtwin sportbike, even a Buell. Then get a modern I4 liter sportbike. Put Kpaul on the I4, Sean on the Duc, on any track Kpaul wants, and watch him soil his pants and cry to his mommy as Sean laps him over and over again. Then we can get volunteers from the MO army to take turns spanking him on the Vtwin.



Kpaul please don't speak of racetrack performance until you have actually raced.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:13 AM   #35
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Good to read that story again!



It's an ugly bike by today's standards, but better looking than any Jap bike made back then - remember the Suzuki Madura? It still gives me nightmares.



The BSA group did the same thing in the '60s and made almost the same business decision as Harley except for the part where they uprated their existing models.



If you're going to ask what if? What if Norton had developed the Commando? Would we have had Kenny Dreer's Norton in 1980?
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:18 AM   #36
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The 1934 Matchless 34/B Silver Hawk 592cc ohc V4 comes to mind...
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:30 AM   #37
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The funniest thing about his post is that Yamaha's V-4 did not, as "common knowledge" would have you believe, originate in the V-Max. It started with the Venture, which was introduced two years earlier. The V-Max engine was a hot-rodded version of a touring engine, and not originally designed for what is is best known for doing.



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Old 07-27-2004, 11:36 AM   #38
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Wow! an american V-Max. So since it had 2 more cylinders and its a Harley does that mean it would leak twice as much oil, shake twice as hard and breakdown twice as much. I mean they (Harley) have a hard enough time keeping 2 cylinders firing....imagine the recalls and puns that could have been.



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Old 07-27-2004, 12:28 PM   #39
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Right now in a parallel universe Harley-Davidson is fighting it out for the constructors' championship in MotoGP, filing Chapter 11, and considering a takeover bid by Ducati.
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Old 07-27-2004, 12:40 PM   #40
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Bravo!
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