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Old 07-15-2004, 12:05 PM   #51
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Default Re: This don't hurt.

"Halle Berry in @ssless chaps"



Oh yeah, now I'm going to be able to concentrate on work! Thanks a lot.
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:54 PM   #52
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I see this whole Harley "renaissance" as a kind of cultural amnesia. Harley almost tanked a few decades ago, by producing an inferior, dated product. Somehow, through a kind of reverse-logic, it became the bike of choice for a certain brand of rider. And you can be sure, that "brand" of rider, knew one end of a wrench from the other.



As other (read that Japanese) brands became more and more attuned to US needs, HarleyÂ’s percentage of the market shrank. Hence the 30% import tariffs on any bike 750cc and over, back in "the bad old days" at Harley. Remembering how bad they were, I think, is the hardest part for anyone in my age bracket, to forget. Not to mention, a used hog in fair, to poor shape was a relatively cheap item, back in them thar days.



Now, Harley Davidson is selling pretty much the same product (albeit with Japanese parts), but to a different group of rider, nostalgic in intent, but for the most part vacuous in mechanical ability. A small percent of people who buy new Harleys, actually work on them. Maybe change a sparkplug, but no major stuff, like splitting cases. Take it to the dealer. And when it gets old and faded, sell it, and buy a new one.



This Harley rebirth is to me, a kind of insidious look at the way our culture, as a nation, is headed. Where looks are accepted over substance. Glitz over function. And no one works on anything, or knows how anything works.



Where nostalgia is canned, and sold, like soup.



BTW, I'd have three Harleys, if I could buy a thrashed one for around $750.00 again.





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Old 07-15-2004, 01:09 PM   #53
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That's 'cause the new V-tech VFR sucks....
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:23 PM   #54
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The place to ask is
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:34 PM   #55
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Default Re: Hawgs

all that chrome on those 50s cadillacs were pure function. looks over substance is nothing new here.



The folks at harley must've figured out more people liked riding instead of wrenching.



the irony of my situation is that i have to wrench on my old honda and not the new harley.boohoo
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:36 PM   #56
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Default Re: Harley did it again?

So why don't you whip up a t-shirt and do it. It sounds like pretty easy money to me.



Make a better t-shirt and the world will beat a path to your door!
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:01 PM   #57
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Default Re: Yamaha MT01

By about 1920, every configuration of piston type engine had been tested. Sleeve-valves, double over head cam, desmo, 5 valve heads.

Rotary valves, etc..etc...Look at thr Frontiac Ford, DOHC, 4 Valve per cylinder Model T based engines (how the Chevrolet Bros. got started).
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:03 PM   #58
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And I've still got one (CB350). Can you say unbreakable? Except for the cam bearings, or lack of them.
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