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Old 08-12-2003, 06:19 PM   #1
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Interesting. It's about time they redesigned something. Just kidding. Seriously, if they do it right they could get a whole bunch of us young kids into the H-D clan. If. On the other hand, if they change it up too much, they could end up alienating the old people who are always crying about tradition and so forth. Then again, I didin't hear of too many people whining and selling their motorcycles and vowing to never buy a Harley again when they introduced the V-Rod.



What really has me interested is the new VRSC family bike. I'm sure the redesigned sportsters will be nice enough, but I kind of have a bit of a personal bias against a Harley with the word "sport" in the name. That's not what the bikes are supposed to be about. They're supposed to be about cruising around and stuff, not carving the canyons like the psycho sportbikes.



Whatever happens, I'm sure the old people who always talk about traditions will be happy enough with the new bikes.



P.S. - Was there a point to this post, or did I just want first post for once?



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Old 08-12-2003, 06:22 PM   #2
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New Sportster=Old rusted bicycle with a Home Depot paint shaker bolted to it.



V-Rod model=Same as the old bike, but the engine is mounted upside-down so you can adjust the valves without taking it out of the frame.



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Old 08-12-2003, 06:23 PM   #3
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Sorry, second post.
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Old 08-12-2003, 06:38 PM   #4
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Well good for you Harley, 100 years, while shy of Triumph's 101 years, is still a milestone any company can be proud of

After 46 years the Sporty is due for a re-design, Hopefully they won't ***** it up too bad

My expert prediction is that the V-rod will spin off into a complete line up of cruising, touring and standard type bikes, running concurrant with the TC88,

However beanie-arm-chap-boy's will bail to Yamaha after getting spanked for trying to be 1%.

Harley's will go back to being outlaw bikes, while posers will move on to Warriors and Road Stars.

Those staying with Harley will see that Sporty's are (next to Triumph and Ducati) about the funnest thing you can do with your drawers on and leave heritige softtails in the garage and actually learn to ride without stopping every 15 feet for a beer.

Trailer sales and DWI's will drop, while miles ridden will rise. Harley's will be seen in a new light by sportbike types and global warming will extend the riding season for all

Thats what the bones tell me.
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Old 08-12-2003, 09:15 PM   #5
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I can't afford a VRSC model, since I'm not a doctor or lawyer or willing to spend every red cent on American Iron (much as I'd like to, wife won't let me), so I'm really banking (so to speak) on these new Sportsters to get my foot in the door and still like the bike I get.



Maybe if Harley makes a "Sportster" look like something designed in the last couple years instead of a paint-shaker lead-sled done up in late 40s garb with a peanut tank tacked on, they'll actually attract new buyers. We all know the Blast! just don't cut the mustard for most.



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Old 08-12-2003, 09:42 PM   #6
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Default New Sporties

Most credible rumor I heard was that the Sporty would get rubber mounts and Buell heads.



Least credible rumors - Softail-type suspension, Buell engine.



How do you start a rumor, anyway? Just say you heard it? I heard the new Sportsters will have a rotary rear damper (Harley engineers ironed out the kinks in the Suzuki setup on the TL1000), RADD front suspension (Harley bought the rights from James Parker), and a fork-mounted streetfighter fairing with projector-beam headlights. Obviously, it's a sign they're going to phase out Buell.



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Old 08-12-2003, 09:47 PM   #7
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Having just read through my copy of Fast Bikes, the original 883 Sporster was actual a fast sports bike in its time. A Sporster with a Vrod motor may restore some respect to the name Sporster.



But I suppose they can't alenate their current market.



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Old 08-12-2003, 09:50 PM   #8
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... the Sportster has already been re-designed. It's called the Buell XB12 Firebolt. That's the philosophical descendent of the original Sportster. Badge it as a Harley Sportster and call it a day.



Then take the new "Sportster" and market it as a "little twin" cruiser. Re-name it the "Astro Glide", since it will ease new Harley purchasers into the experience of taking it up the a$$ from dealers.
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Old 08-12-2003, 11:12 PM   #9
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I reckon the new Sportster will look just like the old one, as the TC88 looked just like the late Evo's. But it will have rubber mounts and a balanced engine (like the TC88B) and probably injection, though it'll still have a big oval air cleaner. The heads and other engine internals will be similar to, but not the same as, the Buell Firebolt - but you'll still have pushrods to appease the faithful and to get The Look...
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Old 08-13-2003, 01:58 AM   #10
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Ho hum. Wake me when something other than Buell actually happens
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