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Old 01-22-2003, 07:35 PM   #41
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Yes, different generations have different dreams.



And the "wait-till-they-grow-older" strategy doesn't work. Apple tried that by seeding schools with Macs to create a generation of customers, but the students graduated and bought cheaper IBM clones. So much for that strategy....



Yes, the V-Rod is a good start. And maybe Buell is Harley's future, but they need a new engine...perhaps Porsche can design one for them?
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Old 01-22-2003, 08:07 PM   #42
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You can only live on hype so long.
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Old 01-22-2003, 08:12 PM   #43
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spoken like someone who never graduated highschool.
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Old 01-22-2003, 08:40 PM   #44
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"And maybe Buell is Harley's future, but they need a new engine...perhaps Porsche can design one for them?

" Amen.

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Old 01-22-2003, 08:43 PM   #45
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I thought longride was your dad.
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Old 01-22-2003, 09:06 PM   #46
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I don't think Harley is on the way out anytime soon, but styles and fashion do change, for alot of people Harley is a fashion statement, I'm not saying RUBS are going to firesale their HD's and flood the market with cheapo bikes, but a slakening in demand with a resultant loss in stock value is part of a normal buisness cycle. 17 years of straight growth is impressive indeed, but it's doubtfull that that 's going to continue forever, the most realistic scenario is a leveling off of demand as the economy slows and styles/priority's change. Nay-sayers have been predicting Harley's demise for years for one reason or another, thats not going to happen, even in the AMF years, new Harley's were spendy but available. It's used prices that are over valued now, and those are the prices that are going to suffer, as more new bikes become available.
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Old 01-22-2003, 10:17 PM   #47
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I don't know if the vrod engine is right for a sportbike. I'd like to see Harley use the engine in a big touring rig that could give Honda Goldwings and BMW LTs a run for their money.
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:11 AM   #48
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H-D is not marketing the 100th anniv. bikes as rare or collectible. Every model sold has 100th badges on it and they even went to a 14 month production cycle to ensure availability.



The only rare bike in 2003 would be one that isn't an anniversary model.
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:14 AM   #49
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Great deal you made. I'm glad you are happy with your purchase.
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:35 AM   #50
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Yeah, 100 years and counting so far.
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