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Old 06-01-2005, 01:11 PM   #1
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:30 PM   #2
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:40 PM   #3
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Im all for technology but we (the consumer) have to make these decisions for ourselves its capitolism baby. The manufacturer wouldn't make it if it didn't sell so well. Look if people still take viagra after finding out it will make you go blind (yeah I know mom the priest they were all right) then people will continue to buy these bikes and I think thats great because it throws it in the face of commies that we have a choice. Right or wrong its our choice and until we (consumers again) choose to purchase a different style of bike they (the manufacturer) should continue to make them.

There is also a benefit for us that dont ride the lastest and greatest we can pickup perfectly good bikes for cheap because they aren't the latest and greatest.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:47 PM   #4
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Default Re: Are modern sportbikes engineered too close to the edge?

"What is your sense of the perfect combination between durability, reliability and performance?"



One word (two?) KZ750.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:52 PM   #5
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Default Great topic!

As some of you know I always maintained that 600 Super Sports (ZX-6R, CBR600s, etc.) were the perfect motorcycle. Besides a great price/performance ratio. I contended that they were overbuilt for the street. I contended that if driven at the legal speed limits they were the safest bikes available. They have fantastic brakes, agility and performance. To make a car analogy, if you want to avoid an accident I would want to be in a Corvette. Remember that BMW commercial about avoiding accidents.



However, with the march to reduce weight yet increase performance, SBP asks a great question. I think that engineering is a discipline of compromises. If structural integrity is taking a back seat to weight savings or the power to weight ratio then we have the start of a problem. I guess when Matt Mladin starts complaing about it maybe I will take notice. I side with those who think surviving 100 mph wreck is tall order for any bike frame. But it seems to me it would be the one thing that would be remain intact (bent maybe). I don't know really....Great question to ponder SBP..



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Old 06-01-2005, 01:55 PM   #6
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"There is also a benefit for us that dont ride the lastest and greatest we can pickup perfectly good bikes for cheap because they aren't the latest and greatest."

Great point my dad taught me to never buy the first year of a new model. I ignored his advice once and it cost me....
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:56 PM   #7
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Default Hear hear.

Long live 2-valve Kwackers. The question becomes, "How do you wear the dammed thing out so that you can finally get rid of it?"



I've come to believe that Suzuki's air/oil-cooled Buffalos are in the same class of eternal durablility. Plus, like the Kwackers, they are dead easy to work on when you do need to replace something.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:08 PM   #8
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Default Re: Hear hear.

I can help you there loan it to me. Ill forget to check the oil because Im a lazy ass teenager and ride it halfways across texas in july without telling you what Im doing. Then I call you and tell you that I ran away from home on your motorcycle and the damn thing broke and by the way can you pick me up
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:18 PM   #9
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Default Re: Are modern sportbikes engineered too close to the edge?

It is an excellent question, Martin. And not just because I was thinking about the very same one when I was reading the broken frame thread.



But I really don't have an answer.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:39 PM   #10
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...And everyone *****es about the solidly-built CBR1000RR being a fat pig.
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