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Old 01-29-2007, 09:24 AM   #11
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Default Re: Ducati's Tardozzi: 999 is dead in World Superbike

Really you said that a LaPlace transform and the Thevinim equivalent circuit analysis is useless that makes you the fraud and a ***** poor technician not an engineer.
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:54 AM   #12
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Default Good for Tardozzi!

Dance with the one that brung ya I say!



Ducati sells twins, people who buy Ducatis want twins. WSB wants twin riders to watch the races, WSB needs to keep twin bikes competitive, I smell a rule modification.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:06 AM   #13
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Actually i think it is not debatable. The 999 is clearly very capable. it won it last year and bayliss is kicking butt on it this year. I think, without reading the article, the whole idea is to be able to be competitive at a lower cost. I support the notion, despite how i feel about privateer racing a duc.

Anybody who thinks wsk would be better off without ducati is smoking something.

at the same time the whole debate about twins vs. i-4 seems silly. it's cool to see them racing each other. whatever makes for better racing is what we should support, not some missplaced brand loyalty.

if you want some interesting thinking read dennis noyes' article on speedtv on how close wsk and motogp bikes are becoming.

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:12 AM   #14
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It seems to me that if Aprilia can build a 4 for WSB Ducati certainly could. There would be nothing to prevent them from continuing to sell twins if that's what the market demands. Many sportbikes have been pretty succesful in the marketplace without any race pretensions.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:12 AM   #15
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"how close wsk and motogp bikes are becoming."

Sound like the 800 V-4 is going to migrate to WSB and or the street at some point.

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:15 AM   #16
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good logic, thing is that they actually have already a V4 1000..... now they only need to build it in enough quantity to be omologated
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:36 AM   #17
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Default Re: Ducati's Tardozzi: 999 is dead in World Superbike

Gran Turismo Omologato?



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Old 01-29-2007, 10:38 AM   #18
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The new 1098 is still almost 20 horse down on the Japanese fours in stock form so I would hope that WSB would allow this change at the very least if not 1200 cc's. HP/liter is always going to be less for a twin than a four unless very expensive measures are taken (as Honda did with it's 8 valve oval piston GP bikes). I say cut the Ducs a break.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:50 AM   #19
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Default Does Ducat read MO? Can they accept that the GMP is right?

Yep I agree. Too me this whole increase the twin by 100 cc now and 100 cc latter is very silly. It's like Ducati reads MO and can't accept that kpaul, the Great Motorcycle Prophet (GMP) is right that Twins are dead in racing...
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:52 AM   #20
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Yeah Yeah Just feeding the flames ... Your Superstock and 1000cc theory for WSB seems plausible..
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