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maladg · 09-22-2003, 11:19 AM

Danged if I'm going to opine on looks until I see it in person. I've been wrong in both directions way too many times. I suspect one or two Morons have also made said same mistake! If fact, like the "cookin cajun" - I garounteeeee it.

nbyers · 09-22-2003, 12:43 PM

Yeah, I've turned similar thoughts over in my brain as well. I'm feeling the heat from the females in my life (no, no, only one wife but I've got two daughters) that they'd like some decent passenger accommodations, not to mention a nice built-in suitcase for their stuff.

My CBR1000F was a fantastic bike but heavy. If it felt heavy at 600 lbs that puts the ST1300 and BMW K1200 (not to mention the Conk) out of the running. So we're talking:

Ducati ST series; Triumph Sprint; VFR (last generation) with aftermarket bags; BMW R1100S.

All about 530 lbs. wet and not a dog in the bunch. Ducati's maintenance reputation is an issue, but maybe not as much as people think. A couple of posts back Buz said he's got 19000 on his ST4 with no worries.

BMW R1150R with a windshield would be OK too and a great bike--I encourage MOfos to ride one if you can--but it's a little heavier at maybe 550 lbs.

ShamanWS6 · 09-22-2003, 03:30 PM

In europe now, you have to have only one headlight to stop dozy drivers from thinking they're looking at a car in the distance.

No, I'm not kidding.

Buzglyd · 09-22-2003, 03:34 PM

Is it true they won't let you wear dark face shields because they don't think you're bright enough to switch to a clear one at night?

PJ · 09-24-2003, 04:55 AM

You can say that again! There bikes have made a steady progression from "way cool" to "looks Japanese" to the point that, now that I can afford one, I don't want one. The older Ducs are still distinctive, so that's what I'm considering.

They still aren't really suitable tourers. Anybody who would buy a chain drive bike for serious distance riding probably deserves to spend some time on their knees, at a motel, in the rain, adjusting the thing! Good bike for old posers though.

Duckatee · 09-25-2003, 09:50 AM

Been there, done dat...

I've researched to death the same list of bikes and the short list is now down to FJR (non-ABS) and the Triumph Tiger of all things. Lot of interesting gravel roads and such in my area to explore and I like the Tiger better than the BMW GS. Besides, the free saddlebag offer makes it a heck of a value.

I love the ST4 (also the ST2), but there isn't enough difference to justify replacing my aging 900ss with nelson-riggs softside bags with it. I've done 10 day 2600 mile ride with that setup and worked great.

09-22-2003, 11:19 AM	#21
maladg Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rock throwing distance from Home Despot HQ Posts: 1,141	Re: Updated Sport Touring Line for Ducati Danged if I'm going to opine on looks until I see it in person. I've been wrong in both directions way too many times. I suspect one or two Morons have also made said same mistake! If fact, like the "cookin cajun" - I garounteeeee it.

09-22-2003, 12:43 PM	#22
nbyers Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Jet City, WA Posts: 227	Sport Tourers..... Yeah, I've turned similar thoughts over in my brain as well. I'm feeling the heat from the females in my life (no, no, only one wife but I've got two daughters) that they'd like some decent passenger accommodations, not to mention a nice built-in suitcase for their stuff. My CBR1000F was a fantastic bike but heavy. If it felt heavy at 600 lbs that puts the ST1300 and BMW K1200 (not to mention the Conk) out of the running. So we're talking: Ducati ST series; Triumph Sprint; VFR (last generation) with aftermarket bags; BMW R1100S. All about 530 lbs. wet and not a dog in the bunch. Ducati's maintenance reputation is an issue, but maybe not as much as people think. A couple of posts back Buz said he's got 19000 on his ST4 with no worries. BMW R1150R with a windshield would be OK too and a great bike--I encourage MOfos to ride one if you can--but it's a little heavier at maybe 550 lbs.

09-22-2003, 03:30 PM	#23
ShamanWS6 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 31	NEW EU REGULATIONS In europe now, you have to have only one headlight to stop dozy drivers from thinking they're looking at a car in the distance. No, I'm not kidding. __________________ 2008 KX 450F 2005 GSX-R 1000 (RACE #100) 2008 GSX-R 1000 (RACE #100) 2006 GSX-R 1000 (Many Mods) 2007 Tuono 1000R

09-22-2003, 03:34 PM	#24
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: NEW EU REGULATIONS Is it true they won't let you wear dark face shields because they don't think you're bright enough to switch to a clear one at night? __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

09-24-2003, 04:55 AM	#25
PJ Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: Updated Sport Touring Line for Ducati You can say that again! There bikes have made a steady progression from "way cool" to "looks Japanese" to the point that, now that I can afford one, I don't want one. The older Ducs are still distinctive, so that's what I'm considering. They still aren't really suitable tourers. Anybody who would buy a chain drive bike for serious distance riding probably deserves to spend some time on their knees, at a motel, in the rain, adjusting the thing! Good bike for old posers though.

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09-25-2003, 09:50 AM	#26
Duckatee Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1	Re: Other Sport Tourers with ABS? Been there, done dat... I've researched to death the same list of bikes and the short list is now down to FJR (non-ABS) and the Triumph Tiger of all things. Lot of interesting gravel roads and such in my area to explore and I like the Tiger better than the BMW GS. Besides, the free saddlebag offer makes it a heck of a value. I love the ST4 (also the ST2), but there isn't enough difference to justify replacing my aging 900ss with nelson-riggs softside bags with it. I've done 10 day 2600 mile ride with that setup and worked great.