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merv · 02-19-2003, 10:15 PM

You say Honda didn't dominate F1 - they might not be now but don't you remember Nelson Piquet - Lotus Honda, Ayrton Senna - Lotus Honda, Wiiliams Honda and McLaren Honda, Nigel Mansell - Williams Honda and Alain Prost - McLaren Honda. They totally dominated in both turbo and normally aspirated eras. Prost and Senna I think won all 16 races between them one season. Honda don't seem to have done well in F1 on their return but from what I have read they are waking up and putting on a new effort in the year coming. They are the worlds greatest engine maker and it shows. Who else has won so many different championships in such things as trials, moto-cross, TT, cross-country, Baja, WSB, GP, endurance, F1, Indy - no-one that's who as so few companies are in bikes and cars. Not too many had in-line engines either.

Cheers

Merv.

captainwhoopass · 02-20-2003, 07:21 AM

I'm not sure why Ferry switched to the 2-stroke, but I was at the race, and the tremendous crash on the stroker in the main was probably what convinced him to go back to the 450F. Maybe he was used to the compression braking? I'm not sure.

SeanAlexander · 02-20-2003, 05:17 PM

Not to mention a few glorious sounding Honda V-12 F-1s in the mid-late 60s driven by some colorful charectors armed with awesome HP and top speed. If you have a spare RA-72 lying around, I'd be happy to demonstrate said sound and speed for you.

SeanAlexander · 02-20-2003, 05:23 PM

The "Scooter Smackdown" that MO did a few months ago has a very nice sidebar on Aprilia's DiTech written by Elliot "Stickie" Strong. (The guy I replaced, after he went back to school in WA)

http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompa...rs/index.motml

jamesohoh7 · 02-23-2003, 12:36 PM

You're right, I wasn't talking about their previous efforts. Of course I remember those guys, not that I'm a big F1 fan, but it'd be hard not to remember them.

In their return of late, they have struggled, but like I said, it probably won't be for long.

Cheers!

-James

jamesohoh7 · 02-23-2003, 12:40 PM

Yeah, I have that mag and saw that article! How cool would that be, eh!

I wouldn't hold my breath though. I also have an issue of a bike mag wherein they show pics of what was said was a prototype/sketch (I can't recall) of an NSR500V all dooded up for street duty. This was about 5 years or so ago, it was right when the FireHawk was intro'd, whenever that was.

Anyway... nothing came of that either. Shame.

-James

02-19-2003, 10:15 PM	#41
merv Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 170	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback You say Honda didn't dominate F1 - they might not be now but don't you remember Nelson Piquet - Lotus Honda, Ayrton Senna - Lotus Honda, Wiiliams Honda and McLaren Honda, Nigel Mansell - Williams Honda and Alain Prost - McLaren Honda. They totally dominated in both turbo and normally aspirated eras. Prost and Senna I think won all 16 races between them one season. Honda don't seem to have done well in F1 on their return but from what I have read they are waking up and putting on a new effort in the year coming. They are the worlds greatest engine maker and it shows. Who else has won so many different championships in such things as trials, moto-cross, TT, cross-country, Baja, WSB, GP, endurance, F1, Indy - no-one that's who as so few companies are in bikes and cars. Not too many had in-line engines either. Cheers Merv.

02-20-2003, 07:21 AM	#42
captainwhoopass Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,671	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback I'm not sure why Ferry switched to the 2-stroke, but I was at the race, and the tremendous crash on the stroker in the main was probably what convinced him to go back to the 450F. Maybe he was used to the compression braking? I'm not sure. __________________ <blockquote> \"I knew it. I\'m surrounded by a$$holes.\" [b][i]Lord Helmet, Spaceballs

02-20-2003, 05:17 PM	#43
SeanAlexander Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newport Coast, CA Posts: 1,538	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback Not to mention a few glorious sounding Honda V-12 F-1s in the mid-late 60s driven by some colorful charectors armed with awesome HP and top speed. If you have a spare RA-72 lying around, I'd be happy to demonstrate said sound and speed for you. __________________ I thought I'd found true happiness in my personal bath body bar.... Then I tried DOVE! with 1/4 moisturizing cream!!!

02-20-2003, 05:23 PM	#44
SeanAlexander Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newport Coast, CA Posts: 1,538	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback The "Scooter Smackdown" that MO did a few months ago has a very nice sidebar on Aprilia's DiTech written by Elliot "Stickie" Strong. (The guy I replaced, after he went back to school in WA) http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompa...rs/index.motml __________________ I thought I'd found true happiness in my personal bath body bar.... Then I tried DOVE! with 1/4 moisturizing cream!!!

02-23-2003, 12:36 PM	#45
jamesohoh7 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 211	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback You're right, I wasn't talking about their previous efforts. Of course I remember those guys, not that I'm a big F1 fan, but it'd be hard not to remember them. In their return of late, they have struggled, but like I said, it probably won't be for long. Cheers! -James

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02-23-2003, 12:40 PM	#46
jamesohoh7 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 211	Re: Ducati MotoGP Bike Intro Feedback Yeah, I have that mag and saw that article! How cool would that be, eh! I wouldn't hold my breath though. I also have an issue of a bike mag wherein they show pics of what was said was a prototype/sketch (I can't recall) of an NSR500V all dooded up for street duty. This was about 5 years or so ago, it was right when the FireHawk was intro'd, whenever that was. Anyway... nothing came of that either. Shame. -James