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Old 11-05-2002, 04:53 AM   #11
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Default Teacher misconceptions

"something that costs what some teachers make yearly"



Teachers aren't as underpaid as many like to think. It would be nigh unto impossible to find a public schoolteacher that makes $18,000. The national average salary for a public schoolteacher in the '00-'01 school year was a little over $42,000.
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Old 11-05-2002, 07:17 AM   #12
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Default white wine poser Italian bike crowd

I resent that insinuation -- I only drink red wine!



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PS: I agree with your final sentence.
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Old 11-05-2002, 07:48 AM   #13
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That's gross. Take out the taxes you owe to city/county/state/federal... and you're talking about a bike that costs more than a year's net salary
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Old 11-05-2002, 08:45 AM   #14
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Not bad for only working about six months out of the year.
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Old 11-05-2002, 09:36 AM   #15
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Default Re: Passion and Seattle cynicism

They must be smoking something funny over in Italy, because pics of the new Ferrari Enzo from certain angles (most notably the 3/4 angle) suck too, like the 999. But, I will probably find both to be stunning in the flesh.
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Old 11-05-2002, 10:06 AM   #16
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Default Re: Seattle 999 Unveiling

I think that last statement would cut Ducati sales by 90%. How many Ferarri owners actually RACE their cars? The majority of Ferrari owners buy them for the poseur value.



I think it's the same with most Duc owners. That's just the way it is. There's nothing wrong with that--in fact, if you can get someone to give you twice the amount of money for your product simply because it has a better reputation and looks better, then I'd say you're doing pretty well.



That's the great thing about these bikes. They win on Sunday, and get sold on Monday. If you ask me why I would buy a 999, it wouldn't be because it is the best bike out there (which is a relative thing). I'd buy an R1 or a GSXR-1000, personally. I'd buy the 999 because it was the bike that so-and-so won the so-and-so championship on--because I'm a racing fan.



I want to feel like I'm Troy Bayliss rounding those curves, even though I'm not even close. I want to have the same bike that my racing hero does. I want to put on all the sponsor stickers and say to myself "I've got last year's Superbike championship bike in my garage". I want to sit in the garage and stare at it. I want to make my other motorcycle buddies jealous and hear them bash on the bike while I smirk on the inside. I want to show everybody how hard I've worked all these years by having something that is financially out of their reach.



Just because I don't actually race and ride around just for fun and not in an agressive manner, does that mean Ducati shouldn't take my money? no. I'm sorry if you feel like you've been branded because of the type of people that ride the same bike as you--that would be your problem, not anybody else's.



Make no mistake, these bikes are status symbols. That's part of Ducati's image just like its racing prowess is. It is the American way.



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Old 11-05-2002, 10:12 AM   #17
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Default Re: Passion and Seattle cynicism

no offense but, people like you in seattle is the reason I live in bonney lake, if I need anything I can drive 15 minutes to tacoma. funny how more and more people are moving here from seattle.
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:14 PM   #18
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Of course, you can spend your money on anything you choose -- that is the American Way. Still, when I see a 996 that never gets out of second gear, has 1-1/2" of virgin rubber on each side of the tires, I just wanna cry. It is kinda like seeing a triple crown winning racehorse giving kiddie rides at the fair.



Of the Ferrari owners I know personally (a sample of 2), they DO drive their cars on the racetrack. Most of the Ducati owners I know, DO track days and riding schools where they can at least get a taste of the performance that is available.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:00 PM   #19
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Hey what is that bar in that strip mall in bonney lake where all the posers go to? I saw some nice Harleys there on one of my 150 mile rides on my Ninja. Yes South King County is a nice spot for folks like my in-laws. Red neck/hick country. You aren't married to your cousin are you? My brother-in-law is.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:33 PM   #20
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your right, so. king county IS a good place for redneck hicks, another reason I live in pierce county[LOL] I'm not married to my cousin, my wife is an Okie, Does that count?, Your probably talking about the New Peking lounge, Poser central for sure, Did you get your shots updated before you ventured out into the wilds? If you admit being out here, the Seattle Soviet Socialist Republic might quarantine you to Ballard for re-education, Have fun paying for Paul Allens sandbox. Are you going to the bike show in december?
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