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Old 04-19-2007, 08:00 AM   #31
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:14 AM   #32
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These are the wives' tales I was talking about.. Thanks for not letting me down
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:15 AM   #33
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Default Stainless lines and RD350's

I use the rear a lot, and I think it comes from the fact that my first two bikes were older and heavier.



You know, when I had an fz-1 a couple of years ago, I locked up the back brake a couple times in tense situations. I never intended to turn them into panic stops, but they becuase panicky skids (at least out back).



Then I installed stainless steel lines, what I consider the most important accessory for a bike and the first modification I make. I did the back brake just to match the looks, and because there was a deal on the 3 line set.



What a difference, not in power, but useability on the rear! It became dramatically easier to use the rear brake, where before it was an off-on switch that was pretty much useless. I told this story to a fellow friend of mine who decided to replace his rear line as well as his fronts on his CBR600RR, and he reported the same expierence. Now he uses the rear more too, without fear of locking up.



So I found an RD350 on craigslist that the owner claims runs and drives. Looks like it's in good, non-original shape, with nice chrome and a respray, no badges. I want a runner, so that's fine with me. They want $750 bucks. Someone convince me to buy it. What should I be looking for that goes wrong? My girlfriend's dad knows how to rebuild and the 3 of us could work on it, so I'm thinking this could be fun.



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Old 04-19-2007, 08:16 AM   #34
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:18 AM   #35
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c'mon, just read the subject
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:18 AM   #36
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Default On the VFR, the rear brake lever actuates a piston on both front calipers

Linked Brake System (LBS)

You can stop faster on the VFR if you use both front and rear simultaneously, because you are getting more stopping force on the front wheel.



That said, on the VFR when you use the rear brake alone, you are getting the center piston on either front brake caliper (on the 98-01's at least). It's not very noticeable. Like everyone else here, I only use the rear brake at parking lot speeds or when stopped. when making tight turns in the parking lot on a bike with a higher center of gravity like the vfr, the rear brake is pretty much essential (for me at least) to maintaining stability and controlling the power that goes to the ground.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:34 AM   #37
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Notice how frantic he gets (whoever he is) when he is exposed as a fraud who knows nothing about friction, momentum, etc. A simple perusal of car and motorcycle magazines gives lie to the idea that a heavier vehicle automatically stops more quickly than a lighter one. All the long winded explanations in the world don't change incontrovertible fact.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:36 AM   #38
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No need to say anything. The idiot is entertaining enough without any help.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:48 AM   #39
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Which technique did you use to not avoid hitting that twig?
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:50 AM   #40
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Default Re: Stainless lines and RD350's

The RD350 will be fun, as long as you don't compare it to any modern motorcycle. It will vibrate, handling will be acceptable, brakes will be average, power will be low, and the reliablity will be questionable. Old bikes are fun to tinker with, if you have the time, but can quickly get expensive in a big hurry. One other thing. Owners claims are about as reliable as the weather. You need to see it in person to make the call.
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