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SquareTire · 03-04-2007, 12:08 PM

I would look at it this way- If I had to hit my head hard against any solid object, I would much rather do it with a helmet on than without one. Seems like a no-brainer to me- who needs a "scientific" study ?

BrowningBAR · 03-04-2007, 02:45 PM

No kidding. These studies show nothing.

I do find it interesting that there is only a 2% difference from helmet wearing fatalities to no-helmet wearing fatalities.

BrowningBAR · 03-04-2007, 03:24 PM

c) Add a $2 state gasoline tax to every gallon of gasoline sold -- diesel can remain cheap as it is much more efficient and the primary fuel for commercial vehicles.

--As most towns/states/cities do not have adequate public transportation all this will do is tax the poor into a poorer state. Second of all, a tax to just tax a segment is wrong on many levels.

And you damn well know that this tax money would be wasted and never put to a good purpose.

Everyone loves to tax something they hate, but yet never think about the issues it would bring, like inflation. Feel like paying twice as much for groceries, while you pay twice as much to get to the grocery store? How about general goods like lumber and tires and paint? Everything would go up because of this ill-conceived tax while still being forced to drive just as much because public transportation is poor throughout the country.

naco_traficante · 03-04-2007, 03:27 PM

We just need to keep those old, drunk riders away from hazardous cagers and trees. Maybe they should pass a law or something.

priday · 03-04-2007, 03:58 PM

Well said. Excellent use of facts/data......

-Rob

ewok1 · 03-04-2007, 04:18 PM

When I read that one I moved. Problem solved.

Buzglyd · 03-04-2007, 04:39 PM

I just park my bike 25 miles from home and take the bus the rest of the way.

seruzawa · 03-04-2007, 04:45 PM

"However, younger bikers are still nearly three times as likely to be involved in a crash than their older counterparts and are more likely to be cited for hazardous actions, such as speeding, reckless driving and careless or negligent driving."

Heh heh. So much for those "superior" reaction times and those "safer" sportbikes.

Oh yeah. Total # of riders up 9%. Total # of crashes up 9%. Well, duh!

Whatever. The data will be tweaked to fit whatever agenda the pols already have in mind anyhow.

fumanchu · 03-04-2007, 05:03 PM

with respect to the others, you don't need math help, falco. i dipped back into my dusty medical statistics book to check... and an increase from 3/100 to 5/100 is indeed a relative odds increase of 66.667 percent.

pants for everyone.

Kreb_Cycle · 03-04-2007, 05:17 PM

Are you trying to tell me that an increase from 95% to 97% is 2%!?

Where's my slide rule?

03-04-2007, 12:08 PM	#11
SquareTire Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News I would look at it this way- If I had to hit my head hard against any solid object, I would much rather do it with a helmet on than without one. Seems like a no-brainer to me- who needs a "scientific" study ?

03-04-2007, 02:45 PM	#12
BrowningBAR Snuggles Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a really, really, really old farmhouse Posts: 4,369	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News No kidding. These studies show nothing. I do find it interesting that there is only a 2% difference from helmet wearing fatalities to no-helmet wearing fatalities.

03-04-2007, 03:24 PM	#13
BrowningBAR Snuggles Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a really, really, really old farmhouse Posts: 4,369	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News c) Add a $2 state gasoline tax to every gallon of gasoline sold -- diesel can remain cheap as it is much more efficient and the primary fuel for commercial vehicles. --As most towns/states/cities do not have adequate public transportation all this will do is tax the poor into a poorer state. Second of all, a tax to just tax a segment is wrong on many levels. And you damn well know that this tax money would be wasted and never put to a good purpose. Everyone loves to tax something they hate, but yet never think about the issues it would bring, like inflation. Feel like paying twice as much for groceries, while you pay twice as much to get to the grocery store? How about general goods like lumber and tires and paint? Everything would go up because of this ill-conceived tax while still being forced to drive just as much because public transportation is poor throughout the country.

03-04-2007, 03:27 PM	#14
naco_traficante Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 466	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News We just need to keep those old, drunk riders away from hazardous cagers and trees. Maybe they should pass a law or something.

03-04-2007, 03:58 PM	#15
priday Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News Well said. Excellent use of facts/data...... -Rob __________________ Rob Priday Horsepower is an illusory mathmatical equation; Torque is Real, and is the source of all good things in the world.

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03-04-2007, 04:18 PM	#16
ewok1 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 312	where's the one about all the crashes happening within 25 miles of home? When I read that one I moved. Problem solved.

03-04-2007, 04:39 PM	#17
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,854	Re: where's the one about all the crashes happening within 25 miles of home? I just park my bike 25 miles from home and take the bus the rest of the way.

03-04-2007, 04:45 PM	#18
seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,398	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News "However, younger bikers are still nearly three times as likely to be involved in a crash than their older counterparts and are more likely to be cited for hazardous actions, such as speeding, reckless driving and careless or negligent driving." Heh heh. So much for those "superior" reaction times and those "safer" sportbikes. Oh yeah. Total # of riders up 9%. Total # of crashes up 9%. Well, duh! Whatever. The data will be tweaked to fit whatever agenda the pols already have in mind anyhow. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord!

03-04-2007, 05:03 PM	#19
fumanchu Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 207	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News with respect to the others, you don't need math help, falco. i dipped back into my dusty medical statistics book to check... and an increase from 3/100 to 5/100 is indeed a relative odds increase of 66.667 percent. pants for everyone. __________________ Ich Tarzan, du Jane / Wir gehen in den Jungle / Da kann uns niemand sehen / Wir machen dann Bum Bum / Das haut die Affen um

03-04-2007, 05:17 PM	#20
Kreb_Cycle Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 872	Re: Another Crash Statistic Study - Bad News Are you trying to tell me that an increase from 95% to 97% is 2%!? Where's my slide rule? __________________ He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms—one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended. - George Orwell _1984_