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Old 12-15-2000, 05:01 AM   #1
NickdaBrick
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Default I'll tell you why no one has done an objective study

Because studies cost money, and people simply do not like to spend money on something that may not support their agenda. How would the greenies feel about spending money on a study showed that a steel-shoed horse that weighs as much as an Electraglide causes more trail erosion than a dirt bike? How would an ATV rider feel about spending money on research that shows his donut-tired fun machine destroys ground cover quicker than a herd of sheep? Both would feel pretty stupid. Much safer to spend it on lawyers to throw the wool over lawmakers' eyes to get their way.
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Old 12-15-2000, 07:57 AM   #2
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Default Re: Legislation Update on Glamis

The people responding to your very intelligent comments just don't get it. His point is none of you on either side (environmentalists or off road riders) seem to care about the facts. You just want what you want, and anybody who disagrees is an idiot.



This is just like another one of our nations heated debates, abortion. Both sides would argue the extremes, neither would accept some middle ground.

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Old 12-20-2000, 12:49 PM   #3
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Default Re: Legislation Update on Glamis

You are effectively arguing that there is simply no right answer to this problem, and that no one on either side can be correct.



We are talking about sand and plants. This is not rocket science. Clearly the sand doesn't care that it's being ridden on (if you disagree with this, then all hope is lost.) Two-stroke emissions in these amounts are negligible, and have a non-effect, especially compared with what the earth does to itself. Is there smog in Glamis? Is there a hole in the ozone layer there? Let common sense prevail. Mr. Patterson's contention nonwithstanding, the Bureau of Land Management says that this particular fauna, critical to our survival, is doin' jus' fine. Can you conceive of a result that would convince him otherwise? Do you think that it is possible, no matter what the evidence, to persuade him to change his mind?



Those that would control us at the expense of our freedoms have no interest in the truth that you speak of. There are no results of any study that could ever change their point of view. This is virtually a religious quest for them (literally in some cases.)



By the way, just what to motorcycles and ATV's have to do with erosion? Just what would you like to accomplish? Hey everybody, lets band together, pitch in and help STOP PLATE TECTONICS!! All those earthquakes and volcanoes are bad for the environment!! All we need to do is pass a law making natural occurences illegal!



You would say that Rush and Jesse tell people how to think, yet you say McCain is the real deal? You are being shamelessly manipulated by the press, who fawned over McCain like no other candidate in recent history.



Everything is not a left-right battle. It is a wrong-right battle. (It is unfortunate that I will be labled a right-winger for saying this, but it says a lot about the labelers.) Poeple who want to straddle the fence are just too much of a wimp to stand up for anything, and are more of a problem than those with blantantly wrong positions.



"If you are not for me, you are against me."

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