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sachiwilson · 04-27-2005, 05:34 AM

I have to ask, did you actually use up the tire in that short time or were the inspectors just clueless about what a motorcycle tire's tread looked like?

cfc · 04-27-2005, 05:45 AM

From what I understand and have seen you'll be lucky to get 4000k (2500miles) out of a rear tire.

It seems that the belt tensioner does such a good job of keeping the slack out of the driveline that there is always torque being applied to the wheel, even when coasting and decelerating, hence greater tire wear.

BMW4VWW · 04-27-2005, 05:47 AM

1600 miles? You obviously need to have a talk with the guy that gets 7000 miles out of the rear tire on a ZX 1200 R on the other tread. VWW

Chango · 04-27-2005, 05:47 AM

I'm happy as a clam with the Bridgestone BT-014 rear tire I have right now. It has lasted 2000 miles so far and still looks almost new. I also like the Michelin Pilot Power on the front, but I've only had it for a few hundred miles so far, so I can't tell you anything about longevity...

On my last bike I got pretty good mileage out of Pirelli Diablos (7500 miles). Not the Corsas or Supercorsas, just the regular Diablos. But, my last bike only had about 37 lb ft of chain stretching torque and 72 neck snapping hp and I managed to get 8500 miles or so from the Dunlop D207 and D208 tires. Obviously, your mileage has varied.

For sport-touring tires I have heard only good things about the Metzeler Roadtec Z6. The Continental Conti Force Road Attack is a fairly recent sport-touring tire that has deeper tread depth, hopefully meaning longer tread life. And of course the manufacturer claims greater grip with that increased life expectancy.

There's also the Avon AV45/AV46 sport-touring tires. The people I know who have them like them, plus the tread design is pretty cool. And Pirelli has the new Diablo Strada sport-touring tires. Naturally they claim better grip than the Diablo with increased mileage.

If you're not a "bike hero" or a "would be racer" then the sport-touring tires will be perfectly fine for your riding. It seems like the only way you'll have problems with the levels of grip is if you're riding at racetrack levels of intensity. Plus, (and this may or may not apply to you) the sport-touring tires give you better grip in the rain and the cold, where the super sticky and super expensive tires can't maintain enough heat to function at their best.With any luck, you're completely confused now.

"Remeber, it's always easier to do things the hard way." -- Chango

mscuddy · 04-27-2005, 05:51 AM

Kenda Kenda Kenda. Inexpensive, but not cheap. (Kenda has ex-Yokohama engineers BTW).

Fenton · 04-27-2005, 06:01 AM

For the sport/tour option, I replaced my Z4 with the Z6 and I think they are great. I like the Z6 better than the M1's I had on a VFR also. BTW, they are on a Aprilia Futura.

allthatwanders · 04-27-2005, 06:16 AM

Well, look on the bright side, at 1600mi per tire you can check out 6 different brands by the time you get to 10,000 mi.

sarnali · 04-27-2005, 06:25 AM

I have to agree with sachiwilson, is the tire down to the wear bars or do the inspectors not know what an m/c tire looks like? 1600 miles is redicules, I get pissed if I get less than 10k out of a tire.

Granted I live in a cooler climate and the bike is my main transportation so I don't hammer it, but still my bike and me together is probably 800lbs and I've got 12k so far on an Avon with a few thousand miles left. From my experiance with D205's and D220's they stick well because they're soft, but they also wear out faster for the same reason. If I were you I'd get Pilot Roads or Avon AV46's, even the new Diablo Strada's. Hell try Kendas if you like but I wouldn't touch a Dunlop again.

jibosch · 04-27-2005, 06:47 AM

I own a Buell M2L, and the best so far, have been the Pirelli Diablo's. No experience with the new Strada Model, but they may offer less grip than the standard Diablo. I do not do burnouts, and I would say that these tires last about 40% longer than the Dunlop D208's that I had on previosuly. I am on my second set of Diablo's. If I was to change from the Pirelli's, I would check-out the Michelin Power tire.

longride · 04-27-2005, 06:54 AM

You have gotten VERY close to insulting Dunlop tires. In fact, I believe it WAS an insult! You just can't help yourself, can you? Nothing but nastyness and insults. Please refrain from this type of activity, or you shall upset some of our feminine members here. I'm sure you will check yourself in the future.

04-27-2005, 05:34 AM	#1
sachiwilson Women Riders Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,609	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? I have to ask, did you actually use up the tire in that short time or were the inspectors just clueless about what a motorcycle tire's tread looked like? __________________ Frappé LaRue Safety Queen Are you a Rounder? Sarnali: "what could be more useless than arguing with a deaf female lawyer????"

04-27-2005, 05:45 AM	#2
cfc Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 36	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? From what I understand and have seen you'll be lucky to get 4000k (2500miles) out of a rear tire. It seems that the belt tensioner does such a good job of keeping the slack out of the driveline that there is always torque being applied to the wheel, even when coasting and decelerating, hence greater tire wear.

04-27-2005, 05:47 AM	#3
BMW4VWW Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,833	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? 1600 miles? You obviously need to have a talk with the guy that gets 7000 miles out of the rear tire on a ZX 1200 R on the other tread. VWW

04-27-2005, 05:47 AM	#4
Chango Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 152	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? I'm happy as a clam with the Bridgestone BT-014 rear tire I have right now. It has lasted 2000 miles so far and still looks almost new. I also like the Michelin Pilot Power on the front, but I've only had it for a few hundred miles so far, so I can't tell you anything about longevity... On my last bike I got pretty good mileage out of Pirelli Diablos (7500 miles). Not the Corsas or Supercorsas, just the regular Diablos. But, my last bike only had about 37 lb ft of chain stretching torque and 72 neck snapping hp and I managed to get 8500 miles or so from the Dunlop D207 and D208 tires. Obviously, your mileage has varied. For sport-touring tires I have heard only good things about the Metzeler Roadtec Z6. The Continental Conti Force Road Attack is a fairly recent sport-touring tire that has deeper tread depth, hopefully meaning longer tread life. And of course the manufacturer claims greater grip with that increased life expectancy. There's also the Avon AV45/AV46 sport-touring tires. The people I know who have them like them, plus the tread design is pretty cool. And Pirelli has the new Diablo Strada sport-touring tires. Naturally they claim better grip than the Diablo with increased mileage. If you're not a "bike hero" or a "would be racer" then the sport-touring tires will be perfectly fine for your riding. It seems like the only way you'll have problems with the levels of grip is if you're riding at racetrack levels of intensity. Plus, (and this may or may not apply to you) the sport-touring tires give you better grip in the rain and the cold, where the super sticky and super expensive tires can't maintain enough heat to function at their best.With any luck, you're completely confused now. "Remeber, it's always easier to do things the hard way." -- Chango __________________ "Wise men speak because they have something to say. Foolish men speak because they have to say something" -- Plato

04-27-2005, 05:51 AM	#5
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,444	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? Kenda Kenda Kenda. Inexpensive, but not cheap. (Kenda has ex-Yokohama engineers BTW). __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

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04-27-2005, 06:01 AM	#6
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,898	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? For the sport/tour option, I replaced my Z4 with the Z6 and I think they are great. I like the Z6 better than the M1's I had on a VFR also. BTW, they are on a Aprilia Futura.

04-27-2005, 06:16 AM	#7
allthatwanders Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 18	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? Well, look on the bright side, at 1600mi per tire you can check out 6 different brands by the time you get to 10,000 mi.

04-27-2005, 06:25 AM	#8
sarnali Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,416	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? I have to agree with sachiwilson, is the tire down to the wear bars or do the inspectors not know what an m/c tire looks like? 1600 miles is redicules, I get pissed if I get less than 10k out of a tire. Granted I live in a cooler climate and the bike is my main transportation so I don't hammer it, but still my bike and me together is probably 800lbs and I've got 12k so far on an Avon with a few thousand miles left. From my experiance with D205's and D220's they stick well because they're soft, but they also wear out faster for the same reason. If I were you I'd get Pilot Roads or Avon AV46's, even the new Diablo Strada's. Hell try Kendas if you like but I wouldn't touch a Dunlop again.

04-27-2005, 06:47 AM	#9
jibosch Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 70	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? I own a Buell M2L, and the best so far, have been the Pirelli Diablo's. No experience with the new Strada Model, but they may offer less grip than the standard Diablo. I do not do burnouts, and I would say that these tires last about 40% longer than the Dunlop D208's that I had on previosuly. I am on my second set of Diablo's. If I was to change from the Pirelli's, I would check-out the Michelin Power tire.

04-27-2005, 06:54 AM	#10
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: No burnouts, no wheelies, no tread life? You have gotten VERY close to insulting Dunlop tires. In fact, I believe it WAS an insult! You just can't help yourself, can you? Nothing but nastyness and insults. Please refrain from this type of activity, or you shall upset some of our feminine members here. I'm sure you will check yourself in the future. __________________ I'm a knucklehead