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Old 05-03-2004, 12:28 PM   #11
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Default Re: BUELLS NOT BAD EH?

Here is to hoping this is the beginning of a trend....more success for Buell cannot be a bad thing. The more the merrier!

Perhaps more successes from Buell will lead in the long run to more sporty bikes w/o the "monkey humping a football" ergos, too.
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:30 PM   #12
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On second thought, "monkey football" ergos did not quite get it....what I should have said was " more sporty bikes without the passive, receptive ergos".
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:32 PM   #13
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Default wrong again...



FORMULA XTREME



1. Regulations for Formula Xtreme multi-cylinders and twins are the same as the 2003 Superbike multi-cylinder rules with the following exceptions:





A. Displacement range for multi-cylinder four-stroke motorcycles is reduced to 450cc-600cc.



B. Twin-cylinder, liquid-cooled four-stroke motorcycles displacement range is 595cc-750cc.



C. 850cc-1350cc air-cooled four-stroke twins are permitted with unlimited modifications (only applicable eligibility requirements, homologation and general equipment standards apply).



D. Stock throttle-body assemblies are required on multi-cylinders and liquid-cooled twins. Throttle-body assemblies include the following controlled components:



1.

Intake bore castings and associated housings

2.

Butterfly valves and shafts

3.

Fuel rails



E. Fuel injectors may be replaced with aftermarket units provided the original mounting locations are maintained and no modifications are made to the throttle-body assemblies for injector fitment. The total Â*number of installed injectors must be the same as originally produced.



1.

Secondary butterflies may be securely fixed in the open position.

2.

All other fuel injection system components may be modified or replaced with aftermarket items.



F. Stock intake air boxes are required with only the following Â*modifications permitted:



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Air filters, internal flap-type valves, sensors and vacuum fittingsÂ*may be modified, replaced with aftermarket parts or removed. Any holes in the air box to the outside atmosphere or to the inside of an intake tube resulting from the removal of components must be completely sealed from incoming air. All incoming air must pass Â*through the original, unmodified air box inlets.Â*

2.

Ram-air tubes or ducts may be modified, replaced with aftermarket parts or removed. If tubes/ducts are utilized, they must be attached to the original, unmodified air box inlets.

3.

Velocity stacks may be modified, replaced with aftermarket parts, or removed. The only modification permitted to allow alternative velocity stack fitment is the removal of internal debris deflectors.



G. Stock fuel tanks are required on multi-cylinders and liquid-cooled twins. Fuel fillers, fuel valves and fuel pumps may be modified or replaced with aftermarket units. Tanks may be modified only to permit the installation of these components.



H. Bodywork may be modified or changed to any aftermarket or custom type as long as "fluid retention" regulations and general equipment standards are adhered to.



I. DOT street legal or street-type tires are not permitted.



J. The minimum weight limit for all motorcycles is 350 lbs.



2. Motorcycle Entry Restrictions





A. Motorcycles entered in Supersport are not permitted in Formula Xtreme. The VIN number or an AMA frame sticker number is used for identification. A Supersport-entered motorcycle can be changed to Formula Xtreme only before the first official practice begins. A substitute motorcycle, not entered in Supersport, may replace a Formula Xtreme-entered motorcycle at anytime during the meet.



B. Damaged frames may be replaced and re-registered as a proper entry under the direction of the Chief Technical Inspector.



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Old 05-03-2004, 12:42 PM   #14
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Default Re: Engine, Engine, number (XB) 9

If it did well (for suitably small values of "well") then it did so in spite of the engine, surely? A Ducati or Aprilia V-twin motor in the same frame would presumably have done rather better.



Kudos to E.Buell Esq. for designing a chassis that will carry a vintage tractor engine onto the first page of the results sheet. I'm sure the riders will have had their fillings replaced before the next race...
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:49 PM   #15
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Default Not bad? Puhh-lease ...

if harley holds true to form they will lavish millions on a race campaign, fail miserably, then start their own race league so they can win at SOMEthing. it is very telling that this kind of editorial puffery is ensuing after an EIGHTH place finish.



you do realize, don't you, that



1) 8th out of 32 is NOTHING to write home about.

2) finishing a single race is a much different thing than living with a bike, day in and day out, for years.



it is kind of sad and pathetic that harley insists on soldiering on with the wheezy sporster engine in one of the most advanced chassis in all of racing. it's like bolting a briggs and stratten engine into schumacher's ferrari. maybe somewhere on earth there is a track where the bastard could win, but that don't make it a cool sled.
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:52 PM   #16
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Default Re: Not bad? Puhh-lease ...

I'm going to spend more time with my dog from now on.
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:57 PM   #17
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Default Re: Not bad? Puhh-lease ...

does he ride a buell?
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:04 PM   #18
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Default Re: Not bad? Puhh-lease ...

No but he can tell his ass from a hole in the ground, which is refreshing.
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:15 PM   #19
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Default Re: BUELLS NOT BAD EH?

Personally, I'd like to see them do well. And racing success could only help the brand. Problem here is that the XBs were never meant to be race replicas, so even with some modest success, I'm not overly optimistic about their chances long term. Hope I'm wrong, but I've got a feeling I'm not.



People, accept the Buells for what they are: Interesting, unique motorcycles with some rough edges. There probably is never going to be a Rotax-powered Buell, or even a 60-degree V-ROD-powered Buell. I hope they can refine that engine more, or develop a "new" one based on other in-house technology--pray for a V-ROD-based engine (but there doesn't seem to be any urgency to do that.) And when you think about it, is that so terrible? Does anyone really need 130+hp on the street? I mean, how many of us can really put it to any good use on the track?



Hey, Buell, just make some of the vibration go away, squeeze a few more ponies from the lump, keep improving reliablity, and fix some of the other little niggles and I think you've got a really cool and different bike. Oh, and see what you can do about that price.
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:26 PM   #20
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Default Re: 1340's huh ?

I knew it, they're running shovelheads with Buell gas tanks

Harley's best phuck the rest
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