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Old 04-02-2001, 09:08 AM   #41
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Default Re: Retro Airhead?

errr. Isn't there an emissions issue? Cool idea though. Dirt only might work.
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Old 04-02-2001, 10:42 AM   #42
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Default Re: BMW Twins Reader Feedback

I was talking about affordable BMW's, and I wanted to establish that I much prefer the idea of a twin over the F650 (which everyone recommends when I say I want a small, affordable BMW).



On a side note, the F650GS is $8100! A 650 single! BMW _really_ has a problem with overpricing. I'll never see a $7000 twin if their single is over 8k...
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Old 04-02-2001, 11:05 AM   #43
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Default Time For A Comparo!

It's time for an opposed twin comparo! Bikes (standards) should include:

- BMW R1150R

- MotoGuzzi California V11

- Ural Bavarian

And, just for comparison:

- Marusho Lilac

- Douglas Dragonfly



I'm looking forward to it. Oh yes, April Fool...
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Old 04-02-2001, 11:22 AM   #44
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re: I think they could sell at least as many 800cc air-cooled retro standards as Triumph



Unlikely. 1960s BMWs were never viewed as desirable performance machines like the Bonnie, Lightning, Interceptor, or Atlas. (I learned to ride in the 1960s, and I wanted/craved/obsessed over a Bonnie. And I was not alone by any means.) The new Bonnies are sold out in most dealerships. Nostalgia at a great price, and Triumph is not cannibalizing its current models to sell them (other than perhaps the Legend and Thunderbird). It's much less likely that BMW could pull the same thing off without affecting F650 sales at a minimum.



Now, I have been wrong before...but no BMW model ever had the popular appeal of the Bonneville.



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Old 04-02-2001, 12:20 PM   #45
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Default I am stupid, don't read my stuff

I am stupid, don't read my stuff
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Old 04-02-2001, 01:44 PM   #46
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Default Re: Time For A Comparo!

Hahahaha...good joke And how about we have a "wide-angle longitudinal V-twin test" as well? A Virago 250 vs an RC51.
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Old 04-02-2001, 01:51 PM   #47
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I wanted a BMW in 1976. Wound up buying a Goldwing instead ($3500 vs $5000). Been wondering for over 20 years. Two years ago, I bought a used BMW. Been smiling for the last two years.
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Old 04-03-2001, 05:09 AM   #48
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I don't think you're going to see the FJR for 10k, more like 13K, same with Futura at 12-13K.



Still makes the Connie seem good for the wallet.
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Old 04-03-2001, 10:33 AM   #49
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Yep. I've always been very interested in their technology, but my gawd, where do they get their designers? (Actually wanted to talk to Barry about some things I read in MCN re F650 mechanical problems.) Though you have to admire BMW for always going their own way and not blatently ripping off other company's designs. (Unlike some other companies.)
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Old 04-03-2001, 10:42 AM   #50
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I freely admit that I don't know much about BMWs, but I always thought they were well built & the service was good. I was therefor surprised when I got my first issue of MCN & there were numerous letters about BMW problems & lousy factory support. Is this really common?
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