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xlr8r · 04-14-2005, 11:08 PM

BMWs are only insanely expensive to buy if you are used to super-subsidised prices, as you Stateside MOfos all seem to be. Here in the UK, BMWs are the same price as they are in the US, but everything else is at its non-US price, which evens things out - and guess what? BMWs are the value purchase. Add to that the lowest depreciation apart from HD, plus relatively cheap servicing and parts, and you've got a bargain. I've had about a dozen boxers over the years, and although the airheads were reliable, they did need careful maintenance; my '97 R1100R, however, gets just an annual dealer service, is unfailingly reliable, tops 50 mpg at 70+mph and in the four years I've had it the list of failed components so far amounts to ...the bulb in the clock. Frankly, I couldn't afford to run anything else!

seruzawa · 04-15-2005, 02:57 AM

Don't hold your breath. The US is the land everyone gets a .44Magnum even if a .38Special is enough to do the job.

donzi · 04-15-2005, 08:55 AM

How long until this motor appears in the GS?

nweaver · 04-15-2005, 09:22 AM

For a full dress ST bike, 100+ HP is considered good enough, as even the HP king FJR is 130 HP, while the Honda ST1300 is 111 HP. And horsepower matters less than engines range of happyness (the torque/power curve) and vibration characteristics.

Compare with Buell, which is pitching a 78 hp, 1L xb9s against Japanese supersports pumping out >100hp out of 600cc, in a class which is all ABOUT power and handling, where Triumph gets knocked for being <5 hp down, is it no suprised that Buell gets knocked for being 20+ hp down?

BruceF · 04-15-2005, 04:13 PM

my choice, my situational awareness was enhanced by a drunk driver

jconli1 · 04-16-2005, 04:35 AM

Last year.

sekrasta · 04-20-2005, 05:17 PM

Sounds like you would like my 1977 R100RS

themess · 06-10-2005, 10:08 AM

The Suzuki DL650 is indeed one of the bikes that I'm considering for my next purchase. I'd like to see it with (1) forks from the SV650 (2) Shaft or belt drive (3) slightly bigger fairing.

Tom

themess · 06-10-2005, 10:13 AM

The last time I bought a motorcycle, I could have spent about $300 more to go from a 650 to an 850. I didn't, and I never regretted it. The lighter weight (easier to handle at low speeds), better handling and lower fuel consumption are all in favor of the smaller machine.

Tom

04-14-2005, 11:08 PM	#41
xlr8r Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 277	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet BMWs are only insanely expensive to buy if you are used to super-subsidised prices, as you Stateside MOfos all seem to be. Here in the UK, BMWs are the same price as they are in the US, but everything else is at its non-US price, which evens things out - and guess what? BMWs are the value purchase. Add to that the lowest depreciation apart from HD, plus relatively cheap servicing and parts, and you've got a bargain. I've had about a dozen boxers over the years, and although the airheads were reliable, they did need careful maintenance; my '97 R1100R, however, gets just an annual dealer service, is unfailingly reliable, tops 50 mpg at 70+mph and in the four years I've had it the list of failed components so far amounts to ...the bulb in the clock. Frankly, I couldn't afford to run anything else!

04-15-2005, 02:57 AM	#42
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet Don't hold your breath. The US is the land everyone gets a .44Magnum even if a .38Special is enough to do the job. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

04-15-2005, 08:55 AM	#43
donzi Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 37	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet How long until this motor appears in the GS?

04-15-2005, 09:22 AM	#44
nweaver Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 458	Different market... For a full dress ST bike, 100+ HP is considered good enough, as even the HP king FJR is 130 HP, while the Honda ST1300 is 111 HP. And horsepower matters less than engines range of happyness (the torque/power curve) and vibration characteristics. Compare with Buell, which is pitching a 78 hp, 1L xb9s against Japanese supersports pumping out >100hp out of 600cc, in a class which is all ABOUT power and handling, where Triumph gets knocked for being <5 hp down, is it no suprised that Buell gets knocked for being 20+ hp down?

04-15-2005, 04:13 PM	#45
BruceF Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 21	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet my choice, my situational awareness was enhanced by a drunk driver

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04-16-2005, 04:35 AM	#46
jconli1 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet Last year.

04-20-2005, 05:17 PM	#47
sekrasta Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2	400# tourer Sounds like you would like my 1977 R100RS __________________ European vintage, Sport touring, long distance riding, Group rides, \'77 R100RS, \'05 FJR1300

06-10-2005, 10:08 AM	#48
themess Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	Re: MO Puts the New R 1200 RT on the Dynojet The Suzuki DL650 is indeed one of the bikes that I'm considering for my next purchase. I'd like to see it with (1) forks from the SV650 (2) Shaft or belt drive (3) slightly bigger fairing. Tom

06-10-2005, 10:13 AM	#49
themess Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	Re: It's our fault..... The last time I bought a motorcycle, I could have spent about $300 more to go from a 650 to an 850. I didn't, and I never regretted it. The lighter weight (easier to handle at low speeds), better handling and lower fuel consumption are all in favor of the smaller machine. Tom