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Holy_Kaw · 02-16-2005, 03:05 AM

I agree that these are great all-around, real world bikes but I still have a problem with bikes capable of these levels of performance being considered "first bikes" or "starter bikes". Would a Mustang GT be a good "first car"? No 16 year olds are allowed to vote on this!

kowalke67 · 02-16-2005, 04:29 AM

Agreed. They are more bike than I remembered.

seruzawa · 02-16-2005, 04:57 AM

If my comment here doesn't bring Kook back in full panoply nothing will:

Yesterday I talked a friend of mine out of buying a new 600 Supersport. He's only ridden some dirt bikes and that was years ago. He wanted to get back into street riding so I spent some time talking about bikes and got him much more interested in trying an SV650 as a bike to learn on. I got him to see that there is enough to learn in just basic street survival skills that it's best to pick a bike with a good friendly torque curve that won't toss him over the handlebars the first time he makes a panic stop. He says he's going to do the MSF course also.

We'll see.

mscuddy · 02-16-2005, 05:32 AM

Think of the ground clearance problems. Oi vey!

Was that the "corncob" motor?

seruzawa · 02-16-2005, 06:26 AM

Either Kook or another fece consuming coward.

christian_gates · 02-16-2005, 06:52 AM

I don't think so, but I honestly dont' know. It only saw limited use (the coolest placement was clearly in the anti-kamikaze Goodyear F2G variant of the Vaught Corsair, which could crack 400MPH at sea level), and was a follow-on to the R-2800 Double Wasp, which was 18 cylinders in two banks of nine, if memory serves. The 4360 was 28 cylinders in 4 banks of 7, had methanol-water injection and all of the other hot-rod goodies of the era.

I think a few are still in service for racing applications.

cdg

schizuki · 02-16-2005, 08:25 AM

"I knew bush was taking the country backward but only now is it hitting home..."

{yawn}

Holy_Kaw · 02-16-2005, 10:10 AM

Maybe a mature person could handle the performance available from the SV650 but I think it's too much for a kid, at least when I was a kid

. Maybe if I took an MSF course (and went to the gym!) I would see things differently.

02-16-2005, 03:05 AM	#51
Holy_Kaw Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,230	Re: BMW Boxer Cup Replaced By New Power Cup I agree that these are great all-around, real world bikes but I still have a problem with bikes capable of these levels of performance being considered "first bikes" or "starter bikes". Would a Mustang GT be a good "first car"? No 16 year olds are allowed to vote on this!

02-16-2005, 04:29 AM	#52
kowalke67 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 291	Re: BMW Boxer Cup Replaced By New Power Cup Agreed. They are more bike than I remembered. __________________ \"Wait, I think I just -- Yea, I just had an idea.\"

02-16-2005, 04:57 AM	#53
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: BMW Boxer Cup Replaced By New Power Cup If my comment here doesn't bring Kook back in full panoply nothing will: Yesterday I talked a friend of mine out of buying a new 600 Supersport. He's only ridden some dirt bikes and that was years ago. He wanted to get back into street riding so I spent some time talking about bikes and got him much more interested in trying an SV650 as a bike to learn on. I got him to see that there is enough to learn in just basic street survival skills that it's best to pick a bike with a good friendly torque curve that won't toss him over the handlebars the first time he makes a panic stop. He says he's going to do the MSF course also. We'll see. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

02-16-2005, 05:32 AM	#54
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,444	Re: Boxers vs briefs Think of the ground clearance problems. Oi vey! Was that the "corncob" motor? __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

02-16-2005, 06:26 AM	#55
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: let me just reply to myself. Either Kook or another fece consuming coward. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

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02-16-2005, 06:52 AM	#56
christian_gates Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 209	Re: Boxers vs briefs I don't think so, but I honestly dont' know. It only saw limited use (the coolest placement was clearly in the anti-kamikaze Goodyear F2G variant of the Vaught Corsair, which could crack 400MPH at sea level), and was a follow-on to the R-2800 Double Wasp, which was 18 cylinders in two banks of nine, if memory serves. The 4360 was 28 cylinders in 4 banks of 7, had methanol-water injection and all of the other hot-rod goodies of the era. I think a few are still in service for racing applications. cdg

02-16-2005, 08:25 AM	#57
schizuki Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4,413	Re: BMW Boxer Cup Replaced By New Power Cup "I knew bush was taking the country backward but only now is it hitting home..." {yawn} __________________ “[The video] should be sent for example to ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and maybe PBS and VOA. As for Fox News, let her die in her anger... I used to think that MSNBC channel may be good and neutral a bit, but is has lately fired two of the most famous journalists – Keith Olbermann and Octavia Nasser.” - Al-Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn. Or any American lefty.

02-16-2005, 10:10 AM	#58
Holy_Kaw Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,230	Re: BMW Boxer Cup Replaced By New Power Cup Maybe a mature person could handle the performance available from the SV650 but I think it's too much for a kid, at least when I was a kid . Maybe if I took an MSF course (and went to the gym!) I would see things differently.