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Old 12-01-2004, 09:52 AM   #51
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Default Re: Points taken, Sorry

Check out



http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/BMW-VW/BMW-VW.htm



for what a boxer 4 bmw would look like.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:54 AM   #52
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Default Re: Well, OK, it's different...

LOL! Mighty infallible Honda proved that you in fact COULD go broke by underestimating the taste of the American public.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:59 AM   #53
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Default Re: Aw, c'mon, longride, a LITTLE new ground.

BMW has had single sided swing arms since the 80's.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:07 AM   #54
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Default Only one side.

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On the GS series, maybe? Do you know what model, when?



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Old 12-01-2004, 10:32 AM   #55
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Early 80's Gses. And the K bikes.



Try this.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:47 AM   #56
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Default Re: New BMW R1200s, St and RT

Methinks Chris Bangle has a LOT more to answer for than David Robb. The new gen of BMW bikes has grown on me - and lots of others - while the new gen of cars has not...the butt end of the 7 series is flat out criminal. Mega buck car with an ass like an Accord. Accord - otherwise nice car with an ass almost as ugly as a 7 series Bimmer. Speaking of ugly....



Longride made a most excellent point re new designs being branded "ugly". For those who were adults in the mid 80's - remember the initial reaction a lot of folks had towards the first gen Ford Taurus? Next thing you know, revolutionary becomes "fleetmobile".



I'll freely admit to being partial to Beemers...having owned them for a long while - though not currently.



I'll just wait & see 'em in person before I make any plans to start a bonfire.



BTW - this was no scoop. This stuff has been googleable for 4-5 wks now...german sites.
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:22 AM   #57
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Default Re: I'd like to point out that...

...Aprilia, Ducati and Moto Guzzi do, in fact, end in vowels.



(But I hear what you're saying. And I also think the 999 is a lot better looking than most people do. I give BMW credit for being different. I just don't think they've hit the mark with these bikes, and especially, the 5 series sedan.)
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:31 AM   #58
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Default I don't know cr*p!!

I looked at the site you posted....and BMW has had single sided swingarms since the invention of dirt! So I guess don't know jack.



And that mid-eighties K100RS is still a damn fine looking machine. In my eyes, that was a styling home run.
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:53 AM   #59
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Default Re: Well, OK, it's different...

I've got a theory about why certain cars and bikes look better in person than in pictures. Many times the photography is shot at angles and perspectives that we don't normally see when looking at the object in person. Sometimes it's flattering, other times, it's not. As an example, we see many cars shot in profile from the "beltline." (the vertical midpoint of the profile). When we're standing next to a car admiring it, our eye level is much higher than that, so the car appears somewhat different. It's the same with bikes. Also, a two dimensional image isn't an entirely accurate representation of a three-dimensional object. Depths, detail and texture can be obscured or distorted, changing the way the object is percieved.



So yes, a bike can look somewhat different in pictures than it does in person.



And, I'll say it again, I don't think the 999 is ugly. I think it's kinda funky/industrial/minimalistic cool. The problem is that it's not the 916. If people could stop themselves from comparing it to the 916, they might feel a little diffferently. But, alas, we're all human. Er, except maybe Kpail.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:26 PM   #60
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Default But.....

You still had a valid point about BMW styling in general. Nobody is fawning over the looks of these bikes. I just didn't think they were as hidious as many have said. They certainly look a bit funky for sure, but I find the Beemers in general never look all that bad.
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