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Old 11-30-2004, 05:44 PM   #11
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As I look at the new BMWs, I keep expecting to see them transform into robots. I just don't understand the whole German "style" thing.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:01 PM   #12
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My wife knows nothing about bikes, but speaks fluent French. She is taking a break to watch Law & Order, Elevator Inspection Unit, and then we'll get back to it. It's quite painful, but we're making sense of it. Stay tuned...
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:06 PM   #13
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Is there some unknown competition to make the ugliest bike possible? They will still sell to those who wish to be 'exclusive'.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:16 PM   #14
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It's weird! ItÂ’s almost as if BMW and Ducati considered ugly as an esthetic, rather than a design imperative, on the R1200s and Multistrada. On the other hand, the BMW R1150GS looks like it was dragged up from the Marinas Trench but, considering the whole form-follows-function thing, thatÂ’s the way it should look. Must be that ugly is "IN" on the European Mainland.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM   #15
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Cut n Paste the page. Do a google search, then hit translate.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:25 PM   #16
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Wait!



Don't bother. Here's the Propaganda.



Copy: The arrival of the R 1200 RT already really any more did not make of doubts for 2005. But that of a R 1200 ST was completely unexpected... Here thus first official photographs diverted by our advisor of large innovations BMW 2005. Dice next Wednesday at midnight, you will find this time all the official photographs and infos on these innovations BMW on Motor bike-Station! With what still to buy the press good...
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:56 PM   #17
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The ST is almost identical in appearance to a Honda St1300, except where you expect to see little crash wings there are cylinder heads. Ya and that other one looks like a multi crossed with a KTM adventure. I at least expected ORIGINAL ugly bimmers.
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:30 PM   #18
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The arrival of the R1200RT was never in doubt for 2005. But the R1200ST was completely unexpected. Here are the first official spy photos of the all-new BMW 2005. Next Wednesday at midnight, you will find all of the official photos and information on the new BMWs on Moto-Station. What good is it to buy the press?



Exceptional! Here are the first official photos taken by our informant of two new 2005 BMWs, one completely unexpected. We had actually already seen the photos of the last prototypes of the R1200RT rolling off the assembly line a few months ago. But the R1200ST presented here was completely unexpected for 2005. Here you find nothing less than the replacement of the R1150RS, a motorcycle that never convinced us, because of its antiquated styling. Its replacement turns back the hands of time to a spectacular hour.



In these first documents—it’s hard to see it well—the windshield, which is very original, with its double optical vertical position, now invades the space devoted to the fairing. The general aesthetic of this sportbike is futuristic, with a notable mixture of curved and broken lines and a lighter rear end. The engine is largely inspired by the new R1200GS, with its swingarm supported by the frame, and not just by the motor. This should reinforce the strength of the bike, as well as reduce weight, which has been announced as 204 kg dry and 237 kg wet. The engineers used all the technical knowledge from the GS. The R1200ST purports to be lighter than the R1150RS at 215 dry/250 with vital fluids. The adoption of the GS’s Boxer brings its power to 110 hp and 11,7 daN.m torque (sorry guys). As for the rest, the construction is faithful to the architecture of the famous Flat Twin, with, among other things, Telelever, monoshock rear suspension and single-sided swingarm, shaft drive, and integral ABS. The pilot’s seat height is adjustable.



The remake of the RTÂ’s bodywork obscures some of its lines. These last photos unveil a more seductive anatomy. The windshield and the saddle should offer height adjustability and the hardcases seem to be better integrated than they were before. The cases are more or less generous, and the RT and ST share the essentials of their architecture. The RT will no doubt convince our hardcore testers, even though some people criticise the too-timid Boxer. Its weight is moving in the right direction, since our informer determines it to be 220 kg dry and 260 kg wet, compared with the 279 for the R1150RT. As for the equipment and options, the R1200RT offers CD player, an on-board computer, heated seat and grips, cruise control, and the integral ABS brakes.



The RT is set to debut in the beginning of 2005 (January, probably) and the ST a little before Easter. With the K1200R unveiled, 2005 promises to be a great year for the German marque. The RT figures prominently among the best sellers, and it is clear that many customers impatiently await the new version. There is already talk about the arrival of the R1200S in 2006. Wunderbar!

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Old 11-30-2004, 07:32 PM   #19
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I own a 1982 R100RS. Reliable as can be (152,000 miles) and beautiful to look at. I don't know what kind of crack they're smoking in Germany, but as long as BMW continues to make FUGLY bikes, I will never buy another bike from them. They are right there with Harley when it comes to marketing an image, but who would have thought that FUGLY would sell? That headlight on the ST is by far the grossest thing I've ever seen on two wheels (worse than that 4 lamp, bugeye thing they built a couple of years ago). One word - YUCK!
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:06 PM   #20
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I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it again; Germans must never be allowed to design cars, bikes or buildings without Italian supervision at all times. Otherwise they have a tendency to go off some kind of post-modern deep-end, and the rest of us are forced to view the bizarre results...
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