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Old 11-12-2006, 06:44 PM   #11
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Default Re: On second thought....

"Beware the grease mud demon"



"beware the laughing dog who makes sport in the roadway"



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I don't consider myself xenophobic but the quality on a lot of Chinese products is just not there. On one hand I have a bench vice and floor jack that are at least 30 years old, made in China and just as good today as they were new. I think in high end machine tools and casting they're pretty good. However they seem intent on flooding the market with dirt cheap pot metal tools that aren't worth the packaging they come in. I'm not interested in a Cinese made car or bike at this point.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:03 PM   #12
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I know other Asian countries such as Thailand and Indonesia manufacture their own motorcycles, albeit under license and with direct supervision of the Japanese factories. I even had a Japanese technician jet my (two-stroke) Ninja once; he was training the delership's staff. I was impressed by the close relationship. Just as Hondas and Kawis sell in Indonesia I'm sure Aprilias might sell in China, but it only makes sense to build them in China according to Aprilia spec.



That said, once they've done that they certainly could manufacture models for export. The article posted above indicates they are seeking EPA approval so they must be planning on exporting to the USA. It's unclear if they will be Aprilias or another, perhaps as-yet-unannounced brand.



It would make sense for them to manufacture for the Chinese market first-- which must be huge compared to the American scooter market anyway! If they can make good product that meets Aprilia's standards then they can manufacture them for export. But I don't know at all that that's their plan.



I would agree as well that Chinese quality, while greatly improved and still improving, is still not as high as I'd like it to be. I see it in my hand tools, nail clippers, and even the laptop I'm writing this on right now. But I also agree that they're coming. I really wonder what will happen. If their currency floats, that might end cheap Chinese goods for US and Euro customers; right now their currency is pegged artificially low against the dollar. On the other hand, if their currency strenthens, perhaps they will be so flush with buying power that they will just take over vulnerable companies, even huge ones.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:53 PM   #13
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: every Chinese product you buy contributes to the weapons that will be used against your grandkids. I like Aprilia, but I would never even consider buying one made in China.
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Old 11-12-2006, 10:58 PM   #14
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I'm not completely in agreement with RonXX, but I do think that China is one of the most powerful entities on the planet, and has mostly always been. These guys got to the East Coast of Africa before Vasca De Gama, and may have explored the West Coast of the U.S. at about the same time. We're the stronger of the two for sure at present, but they have a lot of experience at profiting from all sorts of situations that we would consider untenable. In their long and complicated history, they have almost always ended up prevailing in the end. Anyone who thinks that we can 'take advantage' of them for very long is not giving them the respect that they deserve.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:55 AM   #15
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When Benelli was bought by Qaichang (or something close to that). The Chinese said that they were leaving all development and manufacturing in Italy. Sourcing only the parts from China. With luck Aprilia will do the same. Ultimately, Piaggio still owns the brand (from what I understand). Knowing this, does Piaggio have bigger plans. Sourcing parts for Vespa, Piaggio, Moto Guzzi and Aprilia seems to be the next step. I guess Ducati will be the only true Italian marquee that is imported to the USA. This will work if the co-op allows for a reduction in MSRP. Otherwise, Aprilia won't make it 4 more years in the US.
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:09 AM   #16
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1. The multifunctional meter is clear at a glance.

2. The newly-designed muffler completely accords with the national standard on noise and exhausted pollutant.

3. With excellent winker switch component., you can operate with facility.

4. The engine, with single cylinder and 4 stroke can be of full combustion, possessing characteristics of lower exhausted pollutant, economical fuel consumption and durability.

5. The aluminum alloy integral wheel engenders a feeling of moving.

6. The visionary colour stripes are permeated with the flavour of the age.

7. EXTRAL LONG FOOT RESTING SPACE. The extra long foot resting space is designed in accordance with ergonomical principles, giving adequate consideration to comfortableness of rider's feet.

8. SUMPTUOUS RIM OF ALUMINUM ALLOY. The sumptuous rim of aluminum alloy combined with sensible front drum brakes ensures more accurate and safer driving.



Mmmmmmmm...sumptuous aluminum rim.... mmmmmmm.

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Old 11-13-2006, 03:47 AM   #17
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HA! I love it. I knew that big complex was nothing but a distribution center.

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Old 11-13-2006, 03:53 AM   #18
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Hmm. All xenophobia and hyperbole aside. These guys are right. Chinese history boils down to two lessons. They are very crafty and they don't mind at all if you underestimate them.

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Old 11-13-2006, 04:46 AM   #19
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Amen
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:53 AM   #20
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Remind me again why we should fear a country that spends only 50 billion a year on it's military when we live in a country that spends 1/2 a trillion?
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