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Old 07-08-2004, 05:02 AM   #21
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Funny. I can't recall any complaints from you about Kook turning this website into a political forum. He's the one who always starts these things. Why don't you go after him? Huh?
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:09 AM   #22
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I'm sorry but I just can't imagine Ducati bailing anyone out of financial trouble. I mean, like, how does that happen? Have the laws of thermodynamics been reversed lately?
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:10 AM   #23
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>All Indian has is a marketing

>name



A hugely valuable one.



>untill someone with balls comes in

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Exactly.



Ducati has the resources, and they have engineers who know something about V-twins. And for the cretins to whom such a thing would be important, it wouldn't be Ducati owning Indian, it would be Texas Pacific Group.
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:28 AM   #24
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They'll just get the Italian Govt to print more money. Then the next time you order an espresso in Italy it will only cost you one trillion lira or Euros or whatever sissy rainbow colored money they're using over there now.
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Old 07-08-2004, 05:58 AM   #25
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:01 AM   #26
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To all those that think that the Ducati/Aprilia sucks, YOUR HIGH. Simply, Aprilia was and is a scooter builder. The motors in the street bikes are supplied by Rotax. The MotoGP effort is a failure. Ducati will not ax any sportbike that Aprilia produces. What they will do is modify the existing motor and build it in Ducati's house. The under 100cc scooter market in Europe blew up when helmet laws were introduced. That's where Aprilia made it's cash. If Duc takes over and helps design big cc scooters (150-500 cc) Aprilia will be back in the game. All Ducati has to do is stop the GP effort to stop the bleeding. Duc wanted Guzzi, anyway, so why not throw in Laverda and (lead brand) Aprilia. Banks will go for it and Duc has the funding. Anyone that thinks this is bad is simply not a good businessman. Aprilia will live right along side with Ducati. Guzzi will get better quality control and Laverda will start shipping bad ass litre class twins again. It all looks good to me.
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:12 AM   #27
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What Indian needs to be is the same as Triumph. A line of modern unique bikes and a line of updated "classic" bikes. If all they're going to do is build fat fendered Harley clones they can be ressurected till the cows come home and they'll go tits everytime.

What alot of people don't realize is that Harley probably wouldn't be building retro style bikes if Indian had of stayed in buisness. Competition between Harley, Indian and later Triumph and BSA is what drove innovation for all of them.

While HD copied the Brits. and went to OHV with the Knucklehead and Panhead engines, then unit engines and swingarm frames with the K model and Sportsters, Indian cranked out the same sprung axle sidevalves and slowly went under.

While new HD's are technicaly superior, visually most of their styling is the same as it was when Indian went tits up.

While this little rant has nothing to do with Ducati or Aprilia, everytime ressurecting old brands comes up Indian gets dragged out of the closet. They went under because they failed to keep up with the times.
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:12 AM   #28
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Here ya go!
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:14 AM   #29
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Ditto.
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:16 AM   #30
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I wasn't thinking about liquid-cooling or DOHC or any of those things. I was thinking more along the lines of non-shaft drives, transmissions with more than five speeds, and larger and/or more powerful engines. They would still need to keep them air-cooled, though.
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