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pplassm · 05-21-2001, 06:21 AM

What's happening with Team Honda? I was looking forward to seeing Nicky Hayden running up front this year.

Pete P.

R1150GS · 05-21-2001, 07:13 AM

I was at Road Atlanta Sunday and was in turn 5 where Nicky lowsided early in the race. Pretty well thrashed the bike. When I got home Sunday and saw the Speedvision replay and interview with Nicky he said he was pushing to hard. Looked like it live. From where I watched, it was obvious that Matt's bike had superior horsepower compared to the others. I also hated to see Suzuki take all the podium spots.

Lunatic · 05-21-2001, 07:35 AM

I'm just amazed to see one brand fill a podium like that. Not just once, but twice. Funky wild. I watched it on speedvision, the announcer said it was 1989 tha last time one brand filled a podium like that. I wonder how long it's been since it was TWO races in arow that one brand filled the podium. Back to the HD days, ya suppose?

Soon the stands will be filled with Anti-Mladin and Anti- Suzuki shirts. Floks hate it when someone dominates.

neoyetif2 · 05-21-2001, 07:56 AM

How about that Harley flambe?

Those Harleys are hot! (ohhh boy)

gerrygrande · 05-21-2001, 10:18 AM

I think it's really good to see one brand fill the top three. Hopefully it will drive the other manufacturers to build even better bikes. Did anyone notice that Suzuki dominated the list of entries? That says Suzuki is building what racers want. I would like to see Suzuki do an invitational SB race with all identical bikes with the top racers like Dodge does with their IROC race. That would be cool!

colin · 05-21-2001, 11:24 AM

I just don't understand it. How can the Gixers be so strong in the USA and nowhere in WSB?? Are there different rules in the US? I can understand Ducati struggling so far from the factory in Italy, but Honda should be beating the crap out of the rest, with the occasional strong Kwack. Enlighten me, pleeeeaasse......

Lunatic · 05-21-2001, 12:43 PM

WSB allows a LOT of changes that are not allowed here. What WSB would call a 750 supersport is fairly close to an AMA superbike.

What baffles me the most is how, ins treet trim the Gixers can be so much faster than the other 600's, but at the track, the Honda's dominate. the AMA must allow them to change an awfull lot of stuff to make up for the HP deficit the Honda's have on the Suzi's. Anyone know why Honda's are so fast in teh 600 class?

granny · 05-21-2001, 01:47 PM

One factor is that WSB forces all competitors to use the same fuel (the same stuff that you might run your bike on) while WSB is much more liberal with fuel; there are some potent fuels available (like Nutec). Road Racing World had an interesting test of a Suzuki GSX-R750 that showed considerable power increase with Nutec (like 10 or 15 hp via fuel and mapping alone). It may be that the Suzuki motors have better cylinder head designs and have an advantage with better fuel. In another RRW article, Ducati representatives claimed that the new 998 motor would make more horsepower under AMA rules that WSB rules mostly on account of the liberal fuel rules. I thnk that Nutec GP-2 costs like $25 per gallon so you might not want to run in your street bike.

granny · 05-21-2001, 01:53 PM

Harley's top exec's must have been overjoyed by that little incident but it could have happened to any bike. No serious rider injuries thankfully.

moose · 05-22-2001, 01:24 AM

it was very nice of the HD brass to put on an expensive fireworks show at the end of the race weekend. i was impressed.

05-21-2001, 06:21 AM	#1
pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Looks like a Suzuki kind of year What's happening with Team Honda? I was looking forward to seeing Nicky Hayden running up front this year. Pete P. __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

05-21-2001, 07:13 AM	#2
R1150GS Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18	Re: Looks like a Suzuki kind of year I was at Road Atlanta Sunday and was in turn 5 where Nicky lowsided early in the race. Pretty well thrashed the bike. When I got home Sunday and saw the Speedvision replay and interview with Nicky he said he was pushing to hard. Looked like it live. From where I watched, it was obvious that Matt's bike had superior horsepower compared to the others. I also hated to see Suzuki take all the podium spots.

05-21-2001, 07:35 AM	#3
Lunatic Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 20	Fascinating to see I'm just amazed to see one brand fill a podium like that. Not just once, but twice. Funky wild. I watched it on speedvision, the announcer said it was 1989 tha last time one brand filled a podium like that. I wonder how long it's been since it was TWO races in arow that one brand filled the podium. Back to the HD days, ya suppose? Soon the stands will be filled with Anti-Mladin and Anti- Suzuki shirts. Floks hate it when someone dominates.

05-21-2001, 07:56 AM	#4
neoyetif2 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 81	Re: Mat Mladin is the Big Kahuna How about that Harley flambe? Those Harleys are hot! (ohhh boy)

05-21-2001, 10:18 AM	#5
gerrygrande Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 27	Re: Mat Mladin is the Big Kahuna I think it's really good to see one brand fill the top three. Hopefully it will drive the other manufacturers to build even better bikes. Did anyone notice that Suzuki dominated the list of entries? That says Suzuki is building what racers want. I would like to see Suzuki do an invitational SB race with all identical bikes with the top racers like Dodge does with their IROC race. That would be cool!

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05-21-2001, 11:24 AM	#6
colin Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14	Re: Looks like a Suzuki kind of year I just don't understand it. How can the Gixers be so strong in the USA and nowhere in WSB?? Are there different rules in the US? I can understand Ducati struggling so far from the factory in Italy, but Honda should be beating the crap out of the rest, with the occasional strong Kwack. Enlighten me, pleeeeaasse......

05-21-2001, 12:43 PM	#7
Lunatic Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 20	Yes, the rules are that different WSB allows a LOT of changes that are not allowed here. What WSB would call a 750 supersport is fairly close to an AMA superbike. What baffles me the most is how, ins treet trim the Gixers can be so much faster than the other 600's, but at the track, the Honda's dominate. the AMA must allow them to change an awfull lot of stuff to make up for the HP deficit the Honda's have on the Suzi's. Anyone know why Honda's are so fast in teh 600 class?

05-21-2001, 01:47 PM	#8
granny Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 149	Re: Looks like a Suzuki kind of year One factor is that WSB forces all competitors to use the same fuel (the same stuff that you might run your bike on) while WSB is much more liberal with fuel; there are some potent fuels available (like Nutec). Road Racing World had an interesting test of a Suzuki GSX-R750 that showed considerable power increase with Nutec (like 10 or 15 hp via fuel and mapping alone). It may be that the Suzuki motors have better cylinder head designs and have an advantage with better fuel. In another RRW article, Ducati representatives claimed that the new 998 motor would make more horsepower under AMA rules that WSB rules mostly on account of the liberal fuel rules. I thnk that Nutec GP-2 costs like $25 per gallon so you might not want to run in your street bike.

05-21-2001, 01:53 PM	#9
granny Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 149	Re: Mat Mladin is the Big Kahuna Harley's top exec's must have been overjoyed by that little incident but it could have happened to any bike. No serious rider injuries thankfully.

05-22-2001, 01:24 AM	#10
moose Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 31	Re: Mat Mladin is the Big Kahuna it was very nice of the HD brass to put on an expensive fireworks show at the end of the race weekend. i was impressed.