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Old 03-11-2001, 07:47 PM   #11
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mark ciccotto's condition? does anybody know how he is?
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Old 03-11-2001, 08:36 PM   #12
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Default Just a few points ....

Uh, first of all -- where've you been? Yamaha DID get rid of Jamie Hacking. He was on a Suzuki.



Secondly, Scott Russell did not "swerve left" -- his engine died and he was trying to get off the track to the rider's RIGHT, which was the closest edge to the track.



Thirdly, I don't know what Okie racing organization you learned in, but I was taught to get out of the racing line and get my hand up. The starting grid is ALL racing line. Because he was close to the edge of the track anyway, it made sense to me. Dean Mizdal is a veteran racer (in fact I used to race against him back in the late 80's on RZ350s in the AFM)and I have to believe his vision was simply obscured in some way in order for him to tag Russell like that.



I am on record as being of the opinion that Russell is a loudmouth egomaniac whose time has passed. Even so, I wouldn't wish that incident (I shudder remembering Bubba Shobert's career-ending collision with Kevin McGhee) on anyone. I sincerely hope his injuries are not severe.
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Old 03-11-2001, 08:50 PM   #13
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Default Give ESPN a break ....

I originally thought the same thing about the race coverage from ESPN2.



Then I realized that this race was set up to be televised 4 hours after it's start time -- roughly 2 hours after the end of the race. In reality, the race start was delayed 45 minutes to begin with, and because of all of the restarts and carnage, the race was actually still running when ESPN begain it's "taped" coveage. I'm not a television producer, and I'm sure they're paid well enough to need to be able to handle this situation, but I don't imagine it was a whole lot of fun to have to deal with. You've got a crew who expects to be editing a complete race and have two hours to do it, then they're faced with a situation of editing an event that is still unfolding, with no time cushion whatsoever.



I agree it wasn't the best sports broadcast I've ever witnessed. As for your tirade against Daytona, well, it IS the single biggest motorcycle race in the world, like it or not, and it's not going away. And while I am not a big NASCAR fan, there is real skill and strategy involved, far more than most people realize.



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Old 03-11-2001, 09:38 PM   #14
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Default Re: Give ESPN a break ....

I am mixed about ESPN... in a way it's great that a mainstram calble network carries the race, but do they have to be so damn bad at it ??? What other racing body, NASCAR, CART, FIM has 3 commercials with 7 laps left in a race ?? That is totally inexcusable. I know that ANY coverage is good for racing, but what we saw was a travesty. ESPN covered NASCAR for 20 years, and they did it VERY well.... extend us the same courtesy please ?
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Old 03-11-2001, 11:09 PM   #15
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I think ESPN2 did a pretty good job with all the delays. Too many commercials though.



As far as I'm concerned, as long as Dave "cannon fodder" Despain, and that constantly bewildered Larry Maiers are not on the program, it is a class presentation.



Gobert's incident looked scary...



Mladin and Suzuki look erect and ready for the season.
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Old 03-12-2001, 12:08 AM   #16
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I got a hold of the race on tape. I watched the ESPN2 slow-mo on my vcr on slow-mo and watched the crashes happen in ultra-slow-mo. Anyway, they were too blurry to see exactly who crashed and who did not. I am getting mixed reports both online and from the commentators on ESPN2 (and the ESPN2 commentators have been known to be quite inaccurate at times with names and bike models.. like when they called the YZF750 an FZR750, etc..etc..). Anyway, I'm not sure but from what I can tell from the blurry images, it looked like it wasn't actually John Pearson who plowed into Russell, but someone else.. I think John was behind that guy and ended up low-siding his GSXR after clipping another downed bike sliding across the grid. Not too sure though as everything was so blurry. Anyway, Scott didn't do the wise thing by making himself wider on the grid when his bike stalled on him. The narrower he makes himself the better.. There is no way he could have made it off the track perpindicular to the racing line at turtle speed and not expect to get hit! Regardless though, I hope they all recover quickly!
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Old 03-12-2001, 03:10 AM   #17
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Default Daytona's bigger than Suzuka?? (NT)

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Old 03-12-2001, 03:13 AM   #18
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For us poor buggers that will never get to see the race, why did Gobert's incident look so bad?



I've shead a chain before, but I hardly knew anything was wrong except for the revs going up. But then again, I didn't rip my cases apart either, so mine wasn't nearly as bad.



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Old 03-12-2001, 04:30 AM   #19
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Oh! Was that the Daytona 200 I was watching yesterday? Wow, I though it was a demolition derby.



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Old 03-12-2001, 04:40 AM   #20
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What an incredible race! I really enjoyed being there!



I came away amazed with Nicky Hadden. He battled his way from the very back of the field through many very fast riders to finish 10th. If he can get consistent he will soon become the reigning king of the superbike world.



Looks like it's going to be a very exciting year of racing!
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