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stevegrab · 03-09-2001, 11:00 AM

When you guys post the results (if you do), please do your best to hide them so that people trying tor read other news items don't have to see them. (Some of us like to wait until we can see the race on TV, even though that is going to be several weeks form now).

wang · 03-09-2001, 11:27 AM

Aww come on steve, I can't see the race, I know it's going on, soooo,I wanna know what the h**l is happening down there.Besides, Aaron and the gixxer are gonna win, aren't they???So not much mystery then!!!

minime · 03-09-2001, 11:30 AM

Miguel won! Wow.

Geezer69 · 03-09-2001, 11:31 AM

Don't worry! We won't let you know that a MDH won on a bike who's slogan is Ride Red.

blip · 03-09-2001, 11:32 AM

I agree with Steve, I didn't go this year (first time in five years that I haven't) and I wish I hadn't seen who won... oh well.

Go Miguel!

TeamProBono · 03-09-2001, 11:35 AM

Yeah--let's have NBC Sydney 2000 Summer Olympics-like coverage and not talk about it until the ESPN rebroadcast in, what?, a week?

Yahoo to Miguel! Really, NO other racer has more heart than he does.

stevegrab · 03-09-2001, 11:41 AM

I'm not saying that MO should not cover the race. I'm saying, they should put the details, results, etc. far down in the news store, so you actually have to click the more.. to get it. Don't say "X won" as the subject, or put it anywhere else in the initial body of the story.

Regarding MO's race coverage, they don't seem to think it is that important. Although I disagree, I know there are other places to go look (AMA Superbike, or the AMA site for AMA races). But I recall at one time they were talking about doing something to cover GP or WSC, not much for the AMA series. I think that is wrong, unless they really think the majority of their readers care more about world racing, than the local series. Covering an AMA event has got to cost less than going overseas, or using a European correspondent.

How about you ask MO readers who attend races to send in results. You could pay them a nominal fee to phone in the results and times. It would be fine, I'd give it a try when I go to the Mid-Ohio event.

Oh, since I already read that Miguel won (thanks Minime, I guess I should have not followed my own thread), go Miguel, team Honda, Red Riders, the almighty CBR600 (yep, I have a 2000 F4).

BONGTOKER · 03-09-2001, 11:47 AM

I knew one of the Honda boys was going to win. They will be taking the win in Superbike also. Honda kicks ASSSSS!!!!!!!!

TeamProBono · 03-09-2001, 11:49 AM

Dear M.O.:

I'm shocked. Why did you delete my post "Re: 750 Supersport Update From Daytona"(and "blip"'s response? I didn't use any profanity and I didn't violate any copywrite laws. Was it really off topic?

I'd like a public response from you. I think it is is inappropriate to delete posts simply because you are personally unhappy with the contents.

blip · 03-09-2001, 11:50 AM

Daytona is well-read, but on the whole, the AMA series isn't worth covering. Remember, we have seven years or readership data to analyize: The past couple of years, WSB has been the most-read, the GPs a distant second and AMA, after Daytona, is really poorly read. Thus, Glenn LeSanto will be at all the WSB races, Colin MacKeller will cover GPs for us. And it's cheaper to travel/lodge in Europe than it is here. You wouldn't believe it, but it's true.

Again, look to the print world for an analogy: Cycle World, general interest magazine, 330,000 circulation, Roadracing World, racing magazine, mostly US, 12,000. So it is with us. Our time is better spent here reviewing bikes. Even the Vino Scooter review does better than race coverage.

We only cover races because I dig motorcycle roadracing. Very few people care. Have you ever been to Daytona? There's 400,000 riders outside, and the stands are virtually empty in the Speedway. It's sad...

03-09-2001, 11:00 AM	#1
stevegrab Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 368	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona When you guys post the results (if you do), please do your best to hide them so that people trying tor read other news items don't have to see them. (Some of us like to wait until we can see the race on TV, even though that is going to be several weeks form now).

03-09-2001, 11:27 AM	#2
wang Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona Aww come on steve, I can't see the race, I know it's going on, soooo,I wanna know what the h**l is happening down there.Besides, Aaron and the gixxer are gonna win, aren't they???So not much mystery then!!!

03-09-2001, 11:30 AM	#3
minime Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 334	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona Miguel won! Wow.

03-09-2001, 11:31 AM	#4
Geezer69 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona Don't worry! We won't let you know that a MDH won on a bike who's slogan is Ride Red.

03-09-2001, 11:32 AM	#5
blip Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 160	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona I agree with Steve, I didn't go this year (first time in five years that I haven't) and I wish I hadn't seen who won... oh well. Go Miguel!

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03-09-2001, 11:35 AM	#6
TeamProBono Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 24	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona Yeah--let's have NBC Sydney 2000 Summer Olympics-like coverage and not talk about it until the ESPN rebroadcast in, what?, a week? Yahoo to Miguel! Really, NO other racer has more heart than he does.

03-09-2001, 11:41 AM	#7
stevegrab Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 368	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona I'm not saying that MO should not cover the race. I'm saying, they should put the details, results, etc. far down in the news store, so you actually have to click the more.. to get it. Don't say "X won" as the subject, or put it anywhere else in the initial body of the story. Regarding MO's race coverage, they don't seem to think it is that important. Although I disagree, I know there are other places to go look (AMA Superbike, or the AMA site for AMA races). But I recall at one time they were talking about doing something to cover GP or WSC, not much for the AMA series. I think that is wrong, unless they really think the majority of their readers care more about world racing, than the local series. Covering an AMA event has got to cost less than going overseas, or using a European correspondent. How about you ask MO readers who attend races to send in results. You could pay them a nominal fee to phone in the results and times. It would be fine, I'd give it a try when I go to the Mid-Ohio event. Oh, since I already read that Miguel won (thanks Minime, I guess I should have not followed my own thread), go Miguel, team Honda, Red Riders, the almighty CBR600 (yep, I have a 2000 F4).

03-09-2001, 11:47 AM	#8
BONGTOKER Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 70	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona I knew one of the Honda boys was going to win. They will be taking the win in Superbike also. Honda kicks ASSSSS!!!!!!!!

03-09-2001, 11:49 AM	#9
TeamProBono Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 24	Re: M.O. Censored Me! Are You Afraid Of Something? Dear M.O.: I'm shocked. Why did you delete my post "Re: 750 Supersport Update From Daytona"(and "blip"'s response? I didn't use any profanity and I didn't violate any copywrite laws. Was it really off topic? I'd like a public response from you. I think it is is inappropriate to delete posts simply because you are personally unhappy with the contents.

03-09-2001, 11:50 AM	#10
blip Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 160	Re: 600 Supersport Update From Daytona Daytona is well-read, but on the whole, the AMA series isn't worth covering. Remember, we have seven years or readership data to analyize: The past couple of years, WSB has been the most-read, the GPs a distant second and AMA, after Daytona, is really poorly read. Thus, Glenn LeSanto will be at all the WSB races, Colin MacKeller will cover GPs for us. And it's cheaper to travel/lodge in Europe than it is here. You wouldn't believe it, but it's true. Again, look to the print world for an analogy: Cycle World, general interest magazine, 330,000 circulation, Roadracing World, racing magazine, mostly US, 12,000. So it is with us. Our time is better spent here reviewing bikes. Even the Vino Scooter review does better than race coverage. We only cover races because I dig motorcycle roadracing. Very few people care. Have you ever been to Daytona? There's 400,000 riders outside, and the stands are virtually empty in the Speedway. It's sad...