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Tigercub · 07-24-2006, 08:14 AM

I was surprised at Rossi's bike failure - a puff of blue smoke came out the back while he was slowing for Turn 2 on about lap 30. Too bad for Yamaha - they had the best tent with about 12 to 15 former and current professional racers signing autographs.

Tigercub · 07-24-2006, 08:17 AM

Haven't Harley Davidson used rotax engines for their lower displacement, singles, dirt track bikes for quite a few years?

Tigercub · 07-24-2006, 08:22 AM

I agree. Perfect application for that motor.

The V-rod seems like an overweight, underpowered, monstrosity for use as a race motor, except drag racing - or hill climb?

Tigercub · 07-24-2006, 08:30 AM

Dear JB.

First off - so sorry about Yamaha in MotoGP - there was a very dissappointed Rossi fan in front of me yesterday.

The Laguna track may be well suited for Buell, where you never quite get up to speed. So, it may well be that suspension and tires as you say, are the deciding factors over placement at the finish line. Year-on-year development is needed as well as a good base stock motor.

nweaver · 07-24-2006, 08:47 AM

According to the results on the ama website, its 0 laps, which suggests DNS or something similar.

priday · 07-24-2006, 09:00 AM

The Rotax 990 os a liquid cooled beastie, isn't it?

johnnyb · 07-24-2006, 09:03 AM

shirley shomebody at H-D's ears perk up when a Hog product finishes an AMA national in top 10 and says Hmmmmm...

McWilliams is good but Eboz and those guys aren't exactly Slouches either. 8th is respectable, those first 3 or 4 Yamahas and Hondas god only knows what kind of tricky unobtainable stuff they have in them, and frontline Dunlops are probably good for 1 second too. I bet those R6s go to 17,5 and then some...

ksquid · 07-24-2006, 09:10 AM

I think 8th is great for the Buell.. For this potential XB12R owner this a plus for the Buell... Air cooled, self adjusting valves, fuel injected, just change the plugs and oil right? I am in serouis lust right now.. I get my stock bonus next month..

The_Aerodynamic_Head · 07-24-2006, 09:11 AM

Well, of course they say, "Hmmm."

And don't call me Shirley.

Tigercub · 07-24-2006, 09:23 AM

I think with the attempts to race the Triumph TT600, the Triumph Triple and Buells attempts to race in Formula Extreme you can really appreciate what efforts are going into the 600s to keep them on pace. I'd have to concede that a Jap 600 is probably the most well developed motorcycle in history - today it may be the R6.

07-24-2006, 08:14 AM	#21
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler I was surprised at Rossi's bike failure - a puff of blue smoke came out the back while he was slowing for Turn 2 on about lap 30. Too bad for Yamaha - they had the best tent with about 12 to 15 former and current professional racers signing autographs.

07-24-2006, 08:17 AM	#22
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler Haven't Harley Davidson used rotax engines for their lower displacement, singles, dirt track bikes for quite a few years?

07-24-2006, 08:22 AM	#23
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: What I'd like to see....... I agree. Perfect application for that motor. The V-rod seems like an overweight, underpowered, monstrosity for use as a race motor, except drag racing - or hill climb?

07-24-2006, 08:30 AM	#24
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler Dear JB. First off - so sorry about Yamaha in MotoGP - there was a very dissappointed Rossi fan in front of me yesterday. The Laguna track may be well suited for Buell, where you never quite get up to speed. So, it may well be that suspension and tires as you say, are the deciding factors over placement at the finish line. Year-on-year development is needed as well as a good base stock motor.

07-24-2006, 08:47 AM	#25
nweaver Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 458	Re: Note that... According to the results on the ama website, its 0 laps, which suggests DNS or something similar.

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07-24-2006, 09:00 AM	#26
priday Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	Rotax lighter?? The Rotax 990 os a liquid cooled beastie, isn't it? __________________ Rob Priday Horsepower is an illusory mathmatical equation; Torque is Real, and is the source of all good things in the world.

07-24-2006, 09:03 AM	#27
johnnyb Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,597	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler shirley shomebody at H-D's ears perk up when a Hog product finishes an AMA national in top 10 and says Hmmmmm... McWilliams is good but Eboz and those guys aren't exactly Slouches either. 8th is respectable, those first 3 or 4 Yamahas and Hondas god only knows what kind of tricky unobtainable stuff they have in them, and frontline Dunlops are probably good for 1 second too. I bet those R6s go to 17,5 and then some...

07-24-2006, 09:10 AM	#28
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler I think 8th is great for the Buell.. For this potential XB12R owner this a plus for the Buell... Air cooled, self adjusting valves, fuel injected, just change the plugs and oil right? I am in serouis lust right now.. I get my stock bonus next month..

07-24-2006, 09:11 AM	#29
The_Aerodynamic_Head Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nash Vegas, Tennessee Posts: 446	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler Well, of course they say, "Hmmm." And don't call me Shirley. __________________ Headlight Fluid?! How dumb does he think I am? When I get back to base with that Elbow Grease, I'm gonna have a talk with the Sarge.

07-24-2006, 09:23 AM	#30
Tigercub Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,125	Re: Laguna Seca Formula Xtreme Spoiler I think with the attempts to race the Triumph TT600, the Triumph Triple and Buells attempts to race in Formula Extreme you can really appreciate what efforts are going into the 600s to keep them on pace. I'd have to concede that a Jap 600 is probably the most well developed motorcycle in history - today it may be the R6.