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Old 06-09-2005, 04:04 AM   #11
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Default Re: American Honda vs. HRC development

That is tough to agree with considering the only other factory effort is Honda and Ducati (both suffering from different dis-advantages). If Kawasaki and Yamaha were in it to keep everyone honest...?
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Old 06-09-2005, 04:58 AM   #12
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I'm not sure if this is still true, but Ducati was racing using pump gas (the rules of WSB), probably to keep the Data consistant with their WSB teams. The other superbike teams in the AMA are runing racing fuel. The interviews with Eboz and Hodgson has the saying they are down on power coming off the corners. So maybe they need to switch fuel to compete but Ducati racing heads arn't letting them.
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:06 AM   #13
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I believe that HRC is doing the big picture development and letting the different factory supported teams mix and match to get a bike that suits their needs. The Brit team has some sucess (they lead the points). So the USA squad needs to find the right mix of parts to suit the tracks here.

Maybe the riding styles of are so different that they can not get a good base setting to work from.

With the rules set for afew years Yamaha and Kawi better come back in to superbike
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:10 AM   #14
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Excuses, excuses, excuses. Last year, Honda got beat "because Japan moved too slow," and this year they are getting spanked because "it's a learning curve." Whatever. That is the beauty of racing - the BS is obvious.



Last weekend, Jason DiSalvo qualified on a Superstock R1 faster than all the Honda Superbikes, except Miguel.



You can change the rules, change bikes, whatever. Yoshimura Suziki, through 2 revs of the 750, 2 revs of the 1000 and wholesale changes in the team, continues to dominate.



BTW, I have been a Honda lover for a long time, so this is no Honda-hater bashing here, more like toughlove.



I just want to see the Hayden bros, DiSalvo, Yam and Kawi join the fray. Just as it is, they'd be competitive on their Superstock bikes.
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:44 AM   #15
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:32 AM   #16
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American Honda Racing chose to R&D their own bike for the same reasons Ten Kate does. They want to know if they can compete without the factory all up in there business. When HRC owned the bike they made sure they called all the shots on development. That is no longer the case. Am Honda will trudge through the year and make improvements along the way. They will work with American suppliers and companies like Ten Kate (you did know that Erion already is doing this?) to make a better race bike without having to wait on HRC to send them parts. Makes sense to me. Am Honda will be more than competitive by seasons end and next season Jake will be winning races left and right.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:48 AM   #17
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at about 15,000 rpm.
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:09 AM   #18
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I was wondering if anyone else on the planet saw the humor in that news story. It sounds like a "NEWS virus" that some one planted to see how far it would go.
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:10 AM   #19
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FWIW (which ain't much), my understanding is that HRC is devoting its time and money to MotoGP and there is none available for direct WSB and AMA efforts at present -- a mixed blessing as others have pointed out, given HRC's top-down approach.



The HM Plant team in BSB apparently DOES get some HRC help, which explains why those Hondas are very competitive against the Suzukis and Yamahas and Ducatis. It appears that HRC is using BSB as their development series in case the factory decides to officially re-enter WSB.



All very convoluted, but for the moment, it sort of looks like Honda wants to spend its money in MotoGP and is not willing to risk its FACTORY reputation in the other, lesser, series.
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:43 AM   #20
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I find humor in most stories. But, I'm not old enough for it to be a "hangover" from the 60's.
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